Scot is an Idiot.

[gav]

So we are not to refer to any nation in the context of comedy (bad or good) ?
Or should you just refer to people from your own nation ? Would that also be racism in your view ?
I will take a chance and brandish you as a double standard liar because without a doubt I'm sure you have told a few Irish and Scottish jokes in your life. If you say otherwise I simply will not be able to contain my laughter.

As for my bollocks, I fail to see what relevance the 3 of them have in this conversation.

Lets say you had a production that required an actor to play a 15 year old girl character. Would you not limit your search to 13-17 year old girls or would go about auditioning people of all ages for the role?

Fact is you have no idea as to why the guy needed someone of that type, you jumped to an overly 'pc' conclusion.

Obviously it's an issue you feel strongly about so I suggest you start painting banners and set about marching on parliment or something.

[Stephon]

Oh jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick.

Lovely assistants are supposed to be just that--lovely.

Since the magician is casting the role, he casts it by his standards of attractiveness. If he thinks a young blond or brunnette fits the bill, then that's who he should ask for. Maybe a redhead or gray haired granny would fit the llok and style of his show. Point is, his show, his choice.

There's a line from Fritz the Cat that goes, "How come a great actor like James Earl Jones always gets cast as a black man?" I guess Jester would says it's small minded racist sexism.

The "advert" was completely legit, within the bounds of reason, and constructed exactly like the majority of casting notices you'll find out there.

I may be wrong, but I'm guessing Jester hasn't done a lot of so called "legitimate" theater work; I'll mark his rightous indignation over this non-issue as simple ignorance.

[gav]

Stephon the thing is the British are crazy about appearing to be incredibly 'PC' in the hope that people won't realise that they also are a country full off crude racist and sexist people. Everything is kept 'in the closet' over there.

[martin ewen]

2c (OK maybe 4)

Welcome to the 'all you can bleat' jesters breakfast buffet situated in the 'too much time on his hands' lounge of the 'The sound of my own voice gives me a stiffy.' Hotel.
Every table has a complimentary storm in a teacup.
The patron at a table next to jester 'justice for all' had a tablecloth with pictures on it of dogs smoking cigars and playing pool.
This lead to an unfortunately monotonous 10 minute tirade from a bell wearing man who profession consists of spouting gibberish on cue as he vainglorously failed in his most heartfelt and elusive crusade, to be taken seriously and for people to admire his rather hum-drum intelligence as distorted through the magnifying glass of his disproportunately large and deluded ego.
Utensils clattered onto tables, sighs were heaved and eyes did roll as all grazing came to a halt in the face of a lecture on the evils of the anthropmorphication of animals. Eventually, in an attempt to remove the acorn from which this mighty oak of twee twaddle had grown. The offending tablecloth was removed (even though the diner concerned had enjoyed it, and specifically requested it.)
The diner then left the buffet which forevermore lost his custom.
jester 'and another thing' noted this and remarked that he was thankful.
But kept talking.
Having cemented his role as the resident twat.
The amusing self deceit of sheltering professionally behind a centuries old sexist, class dependant stereotype whilst lecturing others on their egalitarian deficiencies obviously beyond his reduced kneejerk PC
verbage expulsion horizon.
And so he was poisoned and to this day if you lay your head on his grave you can still hear the faint muffled whining of his projected self pity.

[jester]

I used to tell Irish jokes up until the age of 17. Then Rick Mayall and Ade Edmondson came along with Ben Elton and I realilsed that national stereotypes are lazy and rubbish. I'm sorry but I no longer rely on crap old fashioned gags and you won't find a double standard here.

I don't think I'm a crude racist and I'm not ashamed to be British.

I don't beleive the age restriction is for artistic reasons. I think Scot understood it better than anyone, it's for aesthetic reasons. The artist has a vision.

I think I already covered the point Evan is making by mentioning the one legged Tarzan (Thank you Pete and Dud RIP)

I think a good show with good magic doesn't depend on the assistant being "lovely." I hate Baywatch while we are on the subject.

I realise that showgirls are ALWAYS directed by choreographers who cannot stomach an undulating or graduating line of height, nor who can cope with the idea of blocking accordingly. However, I have seen it done and I have seen many good shows that have not failed simply because I couldn't rest a spirit level across the heads of the chorus line.

Stephon. What on earth is "Legitimate Theatre." Have you any idea how stuck up your own arse that sounds? Actually, I haven't done a lot, you are absolutely right - I thought you'd manage to be right on something eventually. But why are you here contributing to this "non issue?" Does it matter if I do not tread the boards with the great hams of bonafide dramatic society?

I think ignorance is when somebody challenges your point of view and you dismiss it instantly as "PC" which is not something I'm too fond of to tell you the truth.

[jester]

Er Martin? Thank You for listening.

What exactly is this sexist stereotype that I hide behind?

So I bore you? But you keep biting. "If I just bite this one last time, perhaps I can get the bread off the hook without losing my self respect."

Yes its March and I have time on my hands. And no matter how hard Martin tries, I don't mistake unhappiness for cleverness. I'm happy.

If you want to revisit the thread where you screamed at me "You're insecure! You're insecure!" over and over I'm game. But it is you. You who once joked "I'm so mean I poke beagles." Yet you do. You are the stupid twat that took great delight in teasing and taunting people who clearly have mental health problems not too long ago. I'd rather you were taking your sad and twisted bile out on me. I like being the centre of attention.

The truth is Martin, I bother you. I do. And you can't stand me. Boo hoo. Not once have I ever walked away from my keyboard at P'net without the smuggest smirk. I know where your achilles heel is and you are always manipulated.

On this occassion you are standing alongside the champions of institutional sexism. I bet you feel proud.

[martin ewen]

sorry buddy

I ration myself to one little jab every couple of months now.
It's a 'got a life' issue.
It is good, in an ever changing world, to open up your posts in their own little window every month or so and see the same shallow strident, high noise to signal ratio.
Sorry I can't indulge you with any more attention than a small parcel of sauce at irregular intervals.
Please do continue convincing yourself you control my every impulse with your multilayered manipulations.
and that my ambitious attempts to entertain myself at your expense are in fact examples of my greatest weakness which is to be your mindless puppet as you control me at will.
For you are indeed a Machiavellian genius.
However if you are prepared to admit you are mentally ill I will try harder to be your imaginary friend.
See you much later, tinkles.

[jester]

Thank You for your contribution to this debate.

20,000 words to say "I still don't like you. And I have to get it off my chest. No, I'm in control. So I hate you everynow and then. But I can handle it. Honest!"

I don't need an imaginary friend, but I have become your imaginary enemy....

You're still uncomfortably standing on the wrong side of an argument which you will conveniently dismiss as unimportant...

[jester]

Stephon is an idiot too.

Hahah!

I would like to thank the thespian that just emailed me with the definition of legitimate theatre.

I don't think magic illusionist quite counts Stephon. Good Try!

Scot is still an idiot. But take heart Scot - you got Martin and Stephon on your side...

[Evan Young]

so what is the definition of legitimate theatre? and what is the source?

[jester]

legitimate theatre

Apparently "Legitimate Theatre" is a snobbish term used to describe Drama. Apparently musicals are generally not regarded as legitimate, nor is variety. Les Mis would be legitimate if the actors didn't keep bursting into song, although anything by Bertold Brecht (including his musicals with Weil) is legitimate theatre.

The definition I have been sent is far longer, but the source has no intention of being dragged onto this thread so I shall keep their name to myself if that is okay.

I just want to say that I do enjoy arguing with you Evan because I feel we can disagree without bursting into tears. I feel the same about most people - including Scot who has proved time and time again that he can take just as much as he can give.

Thank You all for not putting me onto your ignore list. This thread may be irrelevant to some, but I am grateful for your feedback and feel that you all contribute to my growth as a person. Indulging me and my insignificant little arguments in no way belittles those of you that care to discuss these points in your varied and often witty manner.

Now let us continue....

[scot]

I like the short segment about redefining show biz, but overall, my name isn't mentioned much and we should try to stick to topic.

Also, I don't think anyone's on my side though they may not be on Jester's.

Now, please get back to talking about how moronic I am.

[Mr.Taxi Trix]

Don't get me started, but the term "Thundering Moron" does come to mind. Glad to help get this back on topic, you old thread nazi.

[jester]

Scot of the Anarchic.

Scot Scot Scot Scot Scot Scot.

Scot Scot Scot Scot Scot Scot.

Did you hear about Scot got home discovered the window on his door had been broken. He was gutted. He went indoors and was even more gutted when he discovered it was broken on BOTH sides.

We don't need Mexicans, or Irish, or Polish... We've got Scot!

By the way, I love the picture on your website..

[Scot Free]

Originally posted by scot
Also, I don't think anyone's on my side though they may not be on Jester's.

true dat!