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  • lucky john
    Member
    • Oct 2003
    • 77

    #31
    i'm not really a comedian, i'm just a psychotic who has learned to market his illness....i said that

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    • Doctor Eric
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2002
      • 955

      #32
      "I'm not really a comedian, i'm just a psychotic who has learned to market his illness....i said that"

      So has every other hack comic in the buisiness.

      "If I only had a dollar for every nickel I ever made..."

      -Chicken John

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      • lucky john
        Member
        • Oct 2003
        • 77

        #33
        "so has every other hack comic"


        hey there eric we've never met, but its a pleasure.

        i'm not sure who you're refering to with the hack comment...much like alot of street performers there are some stand up comics who steal lines ( as jay leno says, all you can do is write faster than they steal them) and just like there are hack street performers there are hack comics. However, the line you are refering to was written by christopher collins who by the way, if you ever saw his stand up you would know that he really was a bit psychotic and an imposing figure on stage and truly one of the best stand up comics working before his unfortunate death about 12 years ago. Christopher also wrote me a few lines that would suite my act. (christopher and i worked together countless times and also had the same comedy coach) one of the lines he wrote for me was the line in question and that was about 15 years ago. i've performed stand up for over 20 years in countless clubs, universities, casinos, cruise ships and numerous private functions. not to mention fund raising events for the NFL alumni association, international rotary club, cancer society and the list goes on. i've been called alot things by my peers but hack isnt one of them.

        I know of one other touring comic now using that line, who also was part of our "Peer Group Workshop" (which was and still is run by hollywood comedy guru Danny Mora) he started using it three years ago after i had left the stand up world. He did however ask me if i would mind and i said no go for it. so if there are any other people with that line in their act. then yes i would classify them as hack or a comedy thief....in the world of street theater comedy thievery runs rampant. mostly because performers are to lazy to make the effort to write original material and they get away with it because other performers tolerate it. in the world of stand up comedy performers will not put up with it. many comedy thiefs have had their ass handed to them for stealing material and having the misfortune of using it while the person responsible for writing it was in the room.

        as far as stand up comedians are concerned the only thing looked down upon more than a prop comic is a comedy thief.....so if you know of any comic using that line it would be nice if you would pass his name along to me or...... you can go back and polish your props....just kidding i understand that you have an excellent original show and i wish you all the best

        lucky john

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        • martin ewen
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2000
          • 1887

          #34
          It's an adage, a truism, a self evident truth.
          It can be spun various ways, I went through a stage of feeding the press 'professional sociopath'
          and it worked as a hook. My point is you may consider yourself the owner of a description of yourself, written by someone else you admit was more suited to it, (ie more professionally psychotic)
          But other people who use it or anything close to it in all disheartening likelyhood have not heard of you and are merely expressing themselves.
          Except for the people who stole it and maybe the people who stole it off them, or the people who stole it from the people you graciously let have it.
          15 years on and you give it a shot here, I bet someones used it again already.
          Comedy, its deep huh?

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          • Doctor Eric
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2002
            • 955

            #35
            Really, what a fun !@#?ing day.

            "so if you know of any comic using that line it would be nice if you would pass his name along to me"

            That premise is so old that it got a groan from the missing link. The idea is about at a third-grade writing level. If anyone did "steal" it, I'd leave them to it, because it's not very funny.

            The rest of your post is other stuff I already know (except the stuff about you, but I skipped that). It's good to know that all it takes is one offhand comment to get you to post your entire !@#?ing bio, it's much better to embrace insignifigance, rather than kick, scream, cry, and try to bludgeon it to death with the palsied hand of pride. Don't you ever feel bad about working cruise ships? I mean it's a bit cruel to make people laugh when the entire audience is dragging oxygen tanks into the room.

            And I'm not sure who told you about me, but I really wouldn't call my show "original", some homeless bald guy sold me a soiled Jester suit for some old crystal meth, and I just stand there in it, huffing helium and insulting people.

            Anyway, good to "meet" you too John, I tend to !@#? with people, get used to it, it keeps the world interesting.

            Here's two quotes:

            "Sometimes men come by the name of genius in the same way that certain
            insects come by the name of centipede--not because they have a hundred feet,
            but because most people can't count above fourteen."
            -G. C. Lichtenberg

            "Quoting yourself is trite, inane, and above all, mentally deficient"
            -eric cash

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            • lucky john
              Member
              • Oct 2003
              • 77

              #36
              [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doctor Eric
              [B]Really, what a fun !@#?ing day.



              That premise is so old that it got a groan from the missing link. The idea is about at a third-grade writing level. If anyone did "steal" it, I'd leave them to it, because it's not very funny.

              Don't you ever feel bad about working cruise ships? I mean it's a bit cruel to make people laugh when the entire audience is dragging oxygen tanks into the room.

              hey eric,

              third gradlevel it may be, but comedy that works best is aimed at the masses..low brow uneducated individuals. the rosanne show was a good example of this. however,
              i applaud you becase you seem to know what "funny" is. perhaps you should write a book on the subject and become a gazillionaire.

              "funny" is just like a piece of art its something different to each person. nobody knows exactly what "funny" is, some people are just better at it than others.

              and nope i never felt bad about working cruise ships, however i didn't enjoy it much. the oxygen tanks were bad enough but having to unhook the groupies iron lung before sex was just a bit much.

              here is a quote,

              "its ok to talk to yourself as long as you're being funny"

              not quite sure who said that..some old chinese guy i think.

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              • Dom
                Member
                • Dec 2000
                • 62

                #37
                Lucky John,

                Don't give him too much attention, the kid's still wearing nappies and obviously doesn't hang out on pitches otherwise he'd be less antagonistic in his posts. Let's stick to Taxi's thread, it was going well.

                Stay cool

                Dom

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                • Lynneski
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 370

                  #38
                  This one's for Martin:

                  "When childhood dies, its corpses are called adults and they enter society, one of the politer names of hell. That is why we dread children, even if we love them. They show us the state of our decay."
                  -Brian Aldiss

                  (Dom, watch out, your school marm is showing. Come on, you can do better than wag a finger and tut, tut.)

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                  • lucky john
                    Member
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 77

                    #39
                    "a wise head keeps a shut mouth"

                    chinese proverb

                    hey dom, hope all is well in that part of the island

                    cheers,
                    lucky john

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                    • Dom
                      Member
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 62

                      #40
                      "I started off with nothing..I've still got most of it left.."

                      No idea where it's from but kinda appropriate to busking
                      on this side of the world right now..

                      LJ, things are quiet but great up here..

                      Lynneski, it's the "next generation" attitude syndrome, it really gets to me occasionally and you're right I can do much better, but autumn laziness has kicked in. Hope you've got time to enjoy the Spring time..

                      Dom

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                      • J-P
                        Member
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 24

                        #41
                        Before you criticise someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticise them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

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                        • gav
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 916

                          #42
                          'If you can't see my mirrors, I can't see your ugly face!'
                          Truck bumper sticker.

                          'If at first you don't succeed, then skydivings probably not for you'
                          Unknown origin

                          'To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research.'

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                          • Lynneski
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 370

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Dom
                            Lynneski, it's the "next generation" attitude syndrome, it really gets to me occasionally and you're right I can do much better, but autumn laziness has kicked in. Hope you've got time to enjoy the Spring time..Dom
                            cur-mud-geon [origin unknown]
                            1. archaic : a crusty, ill-tempered, churlish old man
                            2. modern : anyone who hates hypocrisy and pretense and has the temerity to say so; anyone with the habit of pointing out unpleasant facts in an engaging and humourous manner

                            -from "The Portable Curmudgeon"

                            (And yes, darling, the hostas are leafing out quite nicely and the lilacs will be along shortly. Des gros becs, L)

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                            • martin ewen
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2000
                              • 1887

                              #44
                              one mans 'quotes' is another mans 'bumper sticker wit'

                              "my other car's a small penis"
                              (a sticker I printed up to slap on Hummers)

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                              • Peter Voice
                                Moderator
                                • Dec 2000
                                • 1065

                                #45
                                "Thank You....Thank You....Thank You....Thank You..........."

                                The cabin staff showing you to the door of your flight whilst picking up the broken stuff in the galley after the pilot really tested the plane's shock-absorbers.

                                Every-one should watch their drawers!
                                http://www.chalkcircle.com.au/

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