Martin Kicks Arse

[martin ewen]

and as the sun sets in the west and all is done that can be done and all the highs and lows drift inexorably toward that misty plain only memories can contain there is only the faint repeating echo ..
Go on admit it... You love me really
Go on admit it... You love me really...

Sleep well children for tomorrow there may well be other small hairless traumatized dragons to slay.

[Peter Voice]

I stand by the George insult.
I know he and Jester are in a different league but Jester's success in bringing wit and enlightenment to p.net are reminiscent of Dubya's triumphant delivery of harmony and freedom to the Middle East. Is there any difference in the method or logic?

[firegirl]

EDITED DUE TO DRUNKNESS

peter has a very, very good point.

that is all.

[jester]

I think Peters indulgence in Peer Patriotism has far more in common with Dubya and The Republican Party than anything I have ever done or said.

He steamed in, long after the battle was over, like the Keystone Cops Mounted Police, nothing left to fight, all that was there were a few border guards to yell meaningless abuse at.

No dragons were slain yesterday. Martin won the popularity contest, Jester won the debate. I think we're all happy now.

Okay I'll admit I love you all really.

Goodnight Dad, whoever you are.

[martin ewen]

What debate?

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"Childishness isn't always wit, but it is often humour. You are obsessed with not being childish, this is in fact immaturity on your part, it's a phase you go through as you grow up which you still have not grown out of yet.

You hate classless pig shit bullies but you admire bullies with flair. Every bully in the world believes that his particular brand of bullying is justified. You are a bully and a killjoy.

Those who learn to classify and predict people quickly are commonly referred to as prejudiced or Fascists.

You are absolutely shit at debating. How come, me the retard can give you such a run for your money.
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These were your contentions, I refuted the first pointing out that as a trained and practicing clown my sense of childishness must be fairly well developed for me to remain successfully in my position as a freelance specialist. That was inferred by my statement that I believed you had not taken into account my profession.

Your rebuttal consisted of a tangental misassumption that I was somehow living in the past. You didn’t argue the point. You are a sad deluded dingleberry clinging to the painfully obvious sphincter of your own inadequacy. You employ no logic whatsoever and I fear you may be grasping at your own singular approximation of sanity that wearing funny hats and spouting nonsense for a living cunningly obscures to the vast majority of observers.

Your other points were.

That I was a bully and a killjoy.
I concede I am a bully, I do use my abilities to make other people feel uncomfortable.
But I do it primarily to entertain myself and others and so that, by evidence of the production of laughter both on these posts and in my professional life, refutes factually your contention I’m a killjoy.
You are in short, demonstratively mistaken.

I didn’t debate your next point because it seemed to trite to bother but now, in the interests of consistency I will.

‘Those who learn to classify and predict people quickly are commonly referred to as prejudiced or Fascists.’

This statement is imbecilic and illogical enough as to raise serious concerns amongst those with intelligence's equal to or greater than an automatic garage door opener.

The list of people who classify and predict people includes anyone who deals with anyone else. You classify the woman at the supermarket checkout counter by the fact that she wears a uniform and seems happy with her job and so can predict that she’s probably sub intelligent.
You classify someone who’s posts gush unrelentingly forth with the volume and precision of an untethered firehose as someone who’s either bored or deranged or both and can predict that it will go on indefinitely until that individual dies, is chemically lobotomized, or finds something better to do.
I could apply this formula all day, policemen, mental health workers, human resource management. on and on and on. none of these people who classify or predict have any implied or overt Fascist tendencies and their prejudices in most cases would detract from their abilities to classify and predict.
so again I contend that you are demonstratively incorrect.

Lastly you contend that I am “absolutely shit” at debating.
I’m confident in my ability to construct logical progressive argument.
I hold no ambitions to convince you of anything because you seem to be deluded to a degree that all the 4637 napoleons in various mental institutions would find disturbing.
I hesitate to believe by your own admission that you are in fact even a retard.

In summary I contend that I in fact am a far more cognizant debater than yourself and also vastly more popular. If only because I have a grasp of reality coupled with a highly developed sense of humour and overlaid with a world beating humility.

If nothing else you can take solace that your contributions here, if nothing else, every couple of thousand words or so, produce a really good insult thrown in your direction.
" You are a sad deluded dingleberry clinging to the painfully obvious sphincter of your own inadequacy."
You made me write that and for that I'm grateful.
I loved erics stuff too, He's vicious but he's in pain.
Anyway I REALLY must be going as unsurprisingly I have better things to do.

[nick nickolas]

HeHeHeHeHehEHB

Martin...you started it off briliantly and the audience made it go to pop! oh so be it...!!! (my site is sweet thnx 4 asking Lurker) My tortured soul(Ozzy) is going to appear in the Vegas Room on StarStruck (Cnl 9) on Sat Night Aussie time...

HeHeHeHeHeHeh

[Magrat2005]

WHY?!?

Jesta, why do you bicker with Martin? STOP IT!! it might be entertaining, but...just stop it, cuz hes my friend, and I like him..Martin Im sorry about the other thread, I got the wrong end of the stick and thought you were using me to get at Jesta....Im sorry

[jester]

What you are done with me forever? Bored with me? What again? That's twice this week.

I've been eating in this restaurant for years and bastard of a chef has finally insulted me. Just how many soups do you have to send back.


Yes we all make quick judgements, but some of us stick by them and stop observing far too soon. It's an arragant trait you have developed. Have you ever seen Little Big Man. Well which one of us is the mule skinner and which one of us is the General? I would never want to be the General.

I'm sorry if Dr Eric is in pain, and I hope that being in your gang helps ease that. If my existence only serves to make him feel better then it will be worthwhile.

What makes you low and wins my deepest contempt is that while you are clearly brilliant at arguing, you have no ability with compassion. You have lots of freinds (I rejoice for you) but you earn your kudos with cruelty.

Of course you are only cruel to those that deserve it, as gangsters generally only commit violence against their own kind. I expect you are nice to your mum.

Time and time again you comprehensively had done with me because I am sooooo beneath you.

You are (as I have said before) easily baited, and here you are again, arguing the toss with me. You started it this time Martin, I just moved it to another thread.

And there is plenty of humour in my words. It just depends on which angle you look on from. You are the artist. I see all of your jokes, and I laugh, you are clever enough to see mine, but your humour is too sour to recieve it.

Actually, perhaps I am now bored with you.

Unless I actually invite you, would you kindly not snipe in any of my threads.

Prove that you are done with me.

Prove that you are big. Show some magnamanity, show the real people just how tall you really are instead of playing to the crows you have around you.

Anybody can throw banl insults around, especially when they have no real meaning. "You the retard." "You are childish." You watch Fox News."

"Loved by few feared by many?" While you wrote that in Irony, many a true word said in jest. You should ask yourself just how much of that is true.

You are the philosopher. Now ask yourself this:

Are your gifts well applied attacking and kicking fools? Or are you ready to move on to the next level.

Are you able to stand among your peers, but defiantly by the truth, take the ridicule.

I always wanted to know how it must feel to walk home with all that gob dripping down the back of my coat. And you know what, I could do it? Could you? Because I think you are one of the people that would have joined in and spat on the coat, along with Dr Eric and your little lackeys.

I baited you again today. I attacked your pride. That is your weakest point.

Too many people think that my social esteem is the same as my self esteem, and assume that this is my weak point.

I am loved by few but they are the important few, I love many, it is better to give than to recieve. Feared by no-one. Healthily fearful of all.

You lost the debate yesterday. Deep down you know where and when you lost the debate.

[Magrat2005]

Originally posted by jester
Unless I actually invite you, would you kindly not snipe in any of my threads.

can I 'snipe' in 'your' threads? please?

Originally posted by jester
Too many people think that my social esteem is the same as my self esteem, and assume that this is my weak point.

so what is your weakness...part from your broken leg, cuz I cant get to it

[martin ewen]

I am bored with you consistently not just once or twice, you call it baiting (because it implies your control) but I choose when to ignore your provocations and when to respond. I do so because, if given enough rope, you paint yourself this deluded picture of yourself and your esteem issues and crow and strut and I feel its entertaining both for myself and others to pull you back into the center of the room, hose the bullshit off you and shine a bit of light on your excessive lack of shame. Your doing it again, coming on all high status and talking down to me.
You want my compassion? Why? You don't strike me as being stricken with anything more than a broken leg and a need for attention disproportionate to your ability to entertain.
I don't need your invitation, your permission, your approval or your absurdly deluded condescension about what I may or may not know "deep inside"
If the fact that I have some pride looks to you like a weakness worth mentioning, should you not consider the vast majority of people here who, in their own way have questioned why you keep swamping the boards with prattle. If this was a rehabilitative charity what I am doing could be cruel, but as its not I'm simply the spearhead of a group constructs attempt to heal itself from what appears to be an external source of uninvited flatulence.
I don't mind you using me, trying to extend some deluded relationship with half arsed taunts, I realise you enjoy it . Your welcome.
You love it/your hurt by it
make up your fucking mind.
If your going to provoke people intentionally it would follow that at the very least you could handle what you produced by way of reaction.
You can't and so now you mix some absurd combo of your contempt and ability to survive spittle on your jacket.
You are a fool, please stop trying to be taken seriously.

[Magrat2005]

off topic

would anyone miss me, if I never came here again?

[Butterfly Man]

on topic ... would anybody miss me?

hmmm ... I was thinking the very same thing.


P.S.:
"You are a sad deluded dingleberry clinging to the painfully obvious sphincter of your own inadequacy."


Jesus, if anyone said that to me ... I'd remove my one testicle and be done with it.

[Magrat2005]

Butterfly Man, I dont know if you were being serious, but I was.

[jester]

Turn to the light side Lurk, feel the force!

Ooooh Martin. You're so sexy when you're angry.

But hey! You're in control right?

I feel so hosed off and cleansed

"So I respond to Jester everynow and then. Huh! I can handle it."

You are still the pathetic lost soul that spits on the back of the nerds coat. This is the issue here. I'm not trying to be funny or entertaining.

You are the deluded bully that thinks he has the right to gob on the poor kids Parker, and you think you are performing some kind of social service. You are essentially a intellectual thug leading a pack of Brown Shirts.

You can sit there and pretend to yourself that nothing I say could ever possibly be true. You can sit there and resent the fact that I understand what you are, and I like you despite yourself. But you are not happy. My prattle is not the reason. There is no reason, no real reason, you bully because you can whenever you are given half an excuse.

It is not a calculated controlled decision as you reel me in to the arena. You didn't reel me in yesterday.

That is not the half of it. Instead of leading people forward, and enlightening them, which you are more than capable of, you pick and bully instead. You find the little weasels in their parkers, the ones that get up your nose, that don't really have the right to play anywhere near your precious space, and you bully them for your entertainment. Better that than ever show you are in anyway weak.

You are not strong enough not to be a bully. It's a very basic concept. And you and your friends blame the weak for their weakness.

You reason "Hey, I didn't actually hit the guy. He had it coming."

And you can reason that your little crows, the glory scavengers who squawk on the side lines, the little barbie Molls who think you are so clever, you can reason that they are responsible for their own actions.

But you are forgetting that smart as they are, their little issues, their little petty spiteful needs are being fueled by a man who should know much much better. It's a symbiotic thing, your need to show them who's boss is what's really in control.

You are not in control. But as you say I'm not funny. Maybe that's because it isn't me who's entertaining you.

Notice I don't resort to insulting your intelligence or your social esteem. I am not doing this to insult you.

You are insulting yourself. Thats the thing about delusions. You never can be sure who's really having them.

[le pire]

Jester,

From reply number one you have declared "victory" and have been beating that drum ever since. The George W. reference was appropriate because that is EXACTLY what he does, even in light of glaring deficiencies and outright failures.

What is your point in all this blather? That you are somehow "superiour" than Martin, or that you have somehow "beaten" him?

If that's what it is, then you've already lost because:

A) he doesn't care. Martin is someone that I am very happy to call a friend and he is quite secure in his abilities as a performer (world-class) and his stature as a human being. He doesn't need your approval, nor anyone elses.

B) nobody else cares. Even if it were true, that you are a better "debater," wittier, or are better hung than Martin, what does that get you? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Why do you content yourself with picking fights with other street performers? If you really were a Jester you would be finding creative and funny ways of shoving the noses of the powerful into their own shit instead of trying to create turmoil in the community of the few people who would actually support you.

etienne