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  • Jim
    Administrator
    • Dec 2000
    • 1096

    AIR FRANCE can go eat a bag of dicks.

    Well, I just got home from Manchester, England on the worst flight of my life and I need to rant.

    It all started right at the beginning when I got to the ticket counter to check my bags for the flight. When flying my show, I need to check three bags, all under the 22kg/50lb limit. I put the third bag on the scale and the woman looks at me with a straight face and says in her snootiest French accented English...

    "Zat will be 120 pounds, sir."

    ---"What? Are you kidding? Is it overweight?"

    "No, sir, the extra bag will cost you 120 British pounds. Zat is zee price for an extra bag."

    ---"Um, it said an extra bag was 150 US DOLLARS on your web site when I bought the ticket. I'm not paying 120 POUNDS for one bag."

    "Well, zee price is 120 pounds today, sir. You do not have to pay it, but your bag weell not be on zee plane."

    FUCK you, Air France. The cost of an extra bag on an international flight was pretty much universally $80 US dollars as recently as this past spring. This summer, that went up to about $150. (I paid $150 on KLM last week!) Air France charged me about $240 dollars yesterday. If there had been a post office in the terminal, I probably could have shipped the bag for half that. Bastards.

    Also...

    -- After being shaken down by the ticket lady, she told me my chosen seat (Row 15-J, window) was unavailable. (I chose that seat using Air France's online "Choose your seat" feature when I purchased the ticket a couple months ago.)

    She said, "I'm sorry sir, zis is a totally full flight and your chosen seat is unavailable. We have two seats left: Row 43-middle and Row 44-middle. (Yes, these are the LAST two rows on the plane, by the toilets.) I showed her my confirmation with my seat number (15J) printed on it and she said, "Oh zat is just your 'requested' seat. It is not a confirmation. Would you prefer row 43 or 44?"

    After I accepted seat 43-middle, I went to the gate and asked a different ticket person if there was anything else and she re-assigned me to Row 16-middle. (that was the most helpful Air France employee I encountered all day.)

    -- At the gate, there were about 300 people waiting to board the wide-body A340 for the trans-atlantic flight. An announcement came over the intercom, (in French, of course) and about 70% of the people at the gate jumped up and sprinted to the queue. I had no idea what was going on. Once the line had formed, they announced in English, "We are now boarding."

    What? Seriously? General boarding for 300 people? No back-to-front civilized, staggered boarding? Just French-first, non-ordered boarding. Nice touch, Air France.

    -- After I got to my seat, (Row 16-middle) and everyone seemed seated, the flight attendant closed the door to the plane and I noticed one open seat in the row in front of me... Seat 15-J, by the window, was empty. That was my fucking REQUESTED seat from the beginning! I tried to call a flight attendant to ask if I could switch but before I could, a scruffy Frenchman hopped up from the row in front of me, looked both ways, and just went over and sat in it. Asshole.

    -- Once the flight got underway, the French douche bag in front of me reclined his seat ALL the way back into my lap. (I've flown a lot of different airlines and I've actually never seen seats recline as far back as that seat did.) I felt like a dentist. His face was practically in my lap. It was almost comical, until I realized it was a seven hour flight and this guy was not going to budge. He had on his noise cancelling headphones and ignored my polite but firm, "Excuse me, sir" requests for his attention. He also did a fantastic job of ignoring my REPEATED, intentional kicking of the seat throughout the entire flight. At least he put the seat up for the meal after the flight attendant prodded him. (Of course, it went right back down afterwards.)

    I will never fly on Air France again. I don't even want to visit France if I have to fly there. Fucking bastards.

    On a positive note... the food tasted excellent on the plane (but unfortunately I've had diarrhea all morning.)

    Vive le France!
  • gav
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2003
    • 916

    #2
    Well I doubt this helps Jim but when I checked in I got stuck with 70 pounds for 7 kilos of over weight.
    10 pounds a kilo !!!! They don't publish the price on their website !!

    At least we're home now and where I am it's sunny and hot.
    Shrewsbury was fun though.

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    • jesus
      Senior Member
      • May 2005
      • 418

      #3
      We'll always have Shrewsbury.

      And you where really excited about popping through France.
      Sorry buddy.

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      • Jim
        Administrator
        • Dec 2000
        • 1096

        #4
        Re: We'll always have Shrewsbury.

        Originally posted by jesus
        And you where really excited about popping through France.

        Yes, and now I'm excited about pooping through France if I ever go there again.

        I hope your flight was better.

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        • Mr.Taxi Trix
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2000
          • 1273

          #5
          Don't hold bck Jim, tell us how you feel. Just paid 55 bucks unexpected to return from Boulder. Thought I was shafted till I read this. Baggage fees are the new black, it would seem.

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          • nick nickolas
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2000
            • 528

            #6
            wow that´s a story Jim ,
            I just flew air france OZ to Portugal, got my allocated seat, food good, no problems,,,,
            got to fly back to OZ in a week or so, hopefully it will be all good again...
            did you collect your air points at least?

            Nick

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            • Butterfly Man
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2000
              • 1606

              #7
              100 Yen Mentality

              I need to check three bags
              Can't feel sorry for you Jim ... jet fuel has tripled in the last five years ... airlines are struggling and because YOU and ME and Others still want cheap fares (which you probably got) they still give them (even though they are losing money on you). The days of cheap airfare are about to end ... permanently ... we all know it.

              From now on if you don't get charged extra for something consider yourself lucky ... just because an agent in Boston doesn't charge you because you have a winsome smile and pretty hair don't expect it ... again... ever.


              If you have three bags you are just asking for trouble ... next time travel first class .. I hear they don't bitch about how many bags you check.

              You get what you pay for.

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              • Jim
                Administrator
                • Dec 2000
                • 1096

                #8
                Dude,

                My ticket cost $950. The extra bag going TO England on KLM cost US$150 and the extra bag coming home on Air France cost 120 British POUNDS (about US$240.) The bags didn't get any heavier while in England.

                So my round trip from Boston to England cost me $1340 US dollars. That's not 'cheap'. I flew to Italy a few years ago for under $500.

                My problem isn't that they charge for the third bag... It's that their charges are totally arbitrary. It's highway robbery. They can charge whatever they want when you're standing there at the ticket counter. You've already paid for the ticket... your plane is leaving in an hour... your bag is sitting there waiting to go down the belt. It's not like you're going to just leave your bag in the trash and board the plane without paying the fee.

                The charges for my extra 48 pounds of equipment amounted to $390. If this really is a weight issue, they should charge people by how much they, themselves, weigh. There were definitely people on the plane who weighed 48 pounds more than me. Did the airline charge them an extra $390 dollars to step onto the plane? Of course not. It's not about the weight. If the bag had weighed 10 pounds instead of 48 pounds they would have charged me the same price. I asked her and she confirmed this. She said the charge was for a 'third bag."

                Like I said in the original post... I EXPECTED to pay for the bag. The Air France web site said the cost of a third bag on a trans-atlantic flight was US$150 when I bought the ticket in July. When I got to the counter, I had $150 in my hands ready to pay. Then the woman said "120 Pounds." She could have said "400 pounds" and I would not have had much of a choice but to pay it or miss the flight into which I had already invested over $1000.

                I'm so sick of flying.

                And stop pissing on my rant, Robert.

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                • pablo
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 200

                  #9
                  Veer we go...

                  RE: "I'm so sick of flying."

                  Okay, this is veering off topic, but I am sick of flying too.

                  I'm also sick of airports, hotel rooms, rentacars, convenience stores, chain restaurants, traffic and the grim banality of the road.

                  Travel used to be adventurous, exciting and fun. When did it get so expensive and stale?

                  When did I get so old?

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                  • Frisbee
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 753

                    #10
                    I had a similar experience one time, but because of a third bag, but because of overweight issues.

                    from then on I printed the baggage allowances and fees from the airlines website and kept it in a folder in my backpack in case just such a thing came up again and then I could show the airlines website showing what the fee was.

                    in terms of weighing passengers, I was in Fiji for a gig over the summer and the airline was so small that they did have certain passengers step on a scale if they had a lot of carry on baggage. Each passenger along with luggage could not weigh above a certain amount.
                    it was a pretty funny sight.

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                    • jeep caillouet
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 752

                      #11
                      first class show

                      The act next to me last nite was advertising "FREE BEER"as he started his show, and he's considered a first class act. Did you get free beer on that flight? I stand by the B man on this one.

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                      • Evan Young
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2001
                        • 1002

                        #12
                        dang, the cheapest UPS shipping I came up with for an ATA case like the one I have from Paris to Boston is 350.00 EUR.
                        That can't be right.
                        $240 is totally excessive, and the seating thing is just ridiculous.

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                        • Rootberry
                          Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 88

                          #13
                          Southwest still does not charge for the first 2 bags the third bag is only 25 bucks [unfortunately they only fly in the US] (contrast that with 15 for first bag and 25 for second bag on Northwest, American, and US Airways). No change of ticket fees ($150 on US airways) No unaccompanied minor fees if over 12 ($100-$150 on most airlines if under 15).

                          As far as Europe goes, flying to Europe sucks. On our last "tour" that took us to a number of stops in the EU we paid over $2000 in extra bag fees for a ten day tour.

                          If I could I would fly Southwest all the time.

                          I would never fly Northworst, US Fairways and Unamerica ever again.

                          If you would like to read more about why we try to fly Southwest all the time you can check out.



                          I have no connection to the airline the stock or anything else. I merely think that other entertainers may benefit from the article

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                          • Butterfly Man
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 1606

                            #14
                            They charge fat people

                            Rootberry,

                            Lucky you ... I've flown Southwest too on many occasion and must say I love the little short pants (especially on the boys). And who doesn't love those comedic announcements that sound like they were written by Jon and Owen.

                            But let's face it boys ... giving me a giant piece of colored plastic the shape of California to determine my boarding order is a bit, well, pedestrian... no?

                            Besides, I hear Bob Nickerson doesn't have many good things to say about Southwest since he swallowed that basketball at the Ohio State Fair in '97.


                            P.S. And your partner secretly told me that you do indeed have a tail.

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                            • roughtoughcreampuf
                              Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 89

                              #15
                              Well now, you gotta pay for EVERY BAG you want to take along with you on flights! What the heck

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