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  • martin ewen
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2000
    • 1887

    I have something to say

    Here's a little perspective of my relationship with this web site.
    I’ve posted a lot and I’ve got my share of library pieces.
    I’ve really enjoyed the social aspect of the site and have met more performers through it than I would have otherwise. I’m not sure but I may have got work through here. I wouldn’t be surprised but honestly feel pretty much my web site and my reputation among previous gigs and performers I know gets me most of my gigs . This is in spite of the fact that I’m a recovering alcoholic who's life off stage was shambolic and manic. I’m aware also that P.net is perceived differently by various visitors and members.
    I am an ex old school street performer, that is to say I share with a certain group here, the training and experience to perform in public places and support myself in doing so.
    I did this almost exclusively for many years in many countries and many cultures.
    I also consider myself very lucky to have met kindred spirits over these years, individual, creative, resourceful individuals who took full responsibility for their lives and used the form of street theater as a sort of ‘hack’ (which in my opinion it’s always been) that enabled them to survive and prosper at the unconventional edge of their own generosity and the generosity of the public.
    I also feel quite lucky to be of a generation of street performers who straddle the pre and post internet eras.
    Before the internet and before mobile phones we would be lucky indeed to come across each other, copenhagen, perth, edinburgh, oslo, london, tokyo,where-ever. You’d see a familiar rogue and your heart would soar like a duck. This was before there were any street theater festivals at all outside Europe. There was a byproduct of this shared hack we had also. We had our own fairly refined values. We had pretty much conquered reality to the degree we needed to and all that was left was play. All you needed to be one of our number was the ability to recognize that you in fact, along with everyone else on the planet, consisted of around 49 to 51% bullshit. Once you were OK with that you were in. Some people found that harder to accept than others but collectively we were fairly merciless on snobs or pretentious performers. I mean to say what good is pretension when basically your exploiting human nature and your need for affirmation and cash to survive.
    Then came the 90’s and cutting edge performers started sporting ‘personal organizers’, first was the filofax then little electronic gizmos from japan that we’d check out and buy for ourselves. Eventually the internet arrived and some of us, being early adopters and having disposable incomes and time on our hands, well we started experimenting.
    Then Jim put performers net up and street performers, who by and large had no idea who he was, saw what he had made and thought. HOT SHIT. I can communicate with all my friends and meet others of our ranks whenever I want and exist on this plain as well.
    Performers net was another hack. Another opportunity for individuals to define characters on another level. It was a social construct made up of people who shared our experience.
    But it had other, more pragmatic and sensible patrons. It had performers who were not street performers but rather variety artists who performed at paid gigs and festivals and who mainly were based in North America where street theater is a small, quite undervalued social hack. So much so that a lot of the big European street performers were in fact north american ex pats.
    Jim had a foot in each camp, having started on the street and moving onto corporate, festival and private gigs while retaining the street style presentation and working the streets of Boston.
    So in the early days Jim must not have known who a fairly significant section of the people posting were. There was checkerboard (Dave Aitken) and him who had the same tech passions, plus a lot of the Nth american variety people and performers who had some connection with the Canadian touring circuit. and then there were the great unwashed, who adopted these forums as our own and for better or worse played a part in the tone here.
    I’m by far the worst offender. I’m really reprehensible. I have invented a person (or perhaps like all performers refined part of my own) that is the wittiest attack dog with a heart of gold I can muster. The heart of gold bit is not even that apparent, its there in my recordings of festivals and my writings of parts of my life that had a performance aspect.Its also there in the company I keep.I don’t appeal to all but I have stamped my personality into this site and there is NOTHING that can modify that. Its there for all to see. As I’ve explained, I come from a background where you had permission to be who you wished to be provided you could pull it off.
    I have no lack of personalities to ping. Anyone of interest, I ping. And some I just ping for the practice.
    My writings on these boards in everything but the blah blah section are uniformly helpful.
    Because really I’m quite a helpful guy. Surprisingly also for someone as insecure as I am I’m quite secure as well.
    Blah blah blah is PLAYTIME. Other performers are my audience. Some producer blunders in here expecting to find someone cosy to employ. Someone who’s meek and helpful and prepared to make light conversation round the cooler about films and books before going out and entertaining the public. Good, there's heaps to choose from. This is MY LIFE I don’t need anyone's permission or approval to entertain. I LIVE to entertain because its all I can do that gives me sufficient feedback to keep my personal demons at bay. I challenge anyone to be more entertaining than me. Dan Holzman was the last person here who I respected as a funny person. (That's funny without being particularly injured eric and robert)He’s just a funny person. A lot of you have much funnier or more skillful shows than i do but here in the Bah section reputation counts for naught. Its be funny or be helpful or be fodder.
    I read Steven's little post today and it made me really angry. As if I’d stoop to being nice just to appeal to some other manipulator.
  • Peter Voice
    Moderator
    • Dec 2000
    • 1065

    #2
    Personally, I've never found anything you've written here disturbing in any way, Martin. Sure, I've cringed and winced but always on the verge of falling off my chair laughing. I believe many of us have long understood and actually love your p.net persona.

    I've long conceded that my own attempts at written humour pale by comparison but games are no fun with only one player.

    At least I get to see some-one doing it better than me.

    BTW I think Taxi can be wickedly funny when he wants.
    Last edited by Peter Voice; Mar-30-2005, 11:55 PM.
    Every-one should watch their drawers!
    http://www.chalkcircle.com.au/

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    • martin ewen
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2000
      • 1887

      #3
      I think Taxi's profoundly funny, he makes thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars by stating that rocks speak to him and he listens and then people buy the rocks.

      He's like geologically funny, theres a funny layer, then a profound layer then a funny layer, then it just gets deeper and deeper.
      And he's a street performer too!
      And a huge influence, so much so that I now live close by and married one of his friends.

      Eric is a good man in a verbal knifefight he's funny like he's already been stabbed in the heart.
      Robert just lives funny.
      Dan Tastic is a sleeper, his last post was the best example of kiwi understated drole wit I'd seen and I appreciated it.
      "I'd be quiet."
      Funny people are the best!
      Last edited by martin ewen; Mar-31-2005, 01:28 AM.

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      • Peter Voice
        Moderator
        • Dec 2000
        • 1065

        #4
        I reckon Lynneski can tickle your toes any time she wants, too, but thanks to her "Canadian" reserve (read; niceness) and good sense, her true wit is rationed very carefully.

        It is refreshing to read about your relationship with p.net. Whilst it is different to mine in many ways, it is remarkably similar and I really enjoy your openness.

        Proof that "Blah, Blah, Blah" can produce gems.
        Every-one should watch their drawers!
        http://www.chalkcircle.com.au/

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        • Steven Ragatz
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2001
          • 493

          #5
          Martin et. al.,

          Sorry to make you angry - it was not my intention. My remarks in the other thread were not directed at you or at anyone in particular. If they were, I would have contacted you or those individuals directly.

          As for me, the primary reason I post on this site - or any of my online haunts for that matter - isn't really for the betterment of others, it's for the betterment of myself. If someone else gains something from one of my posts, it is a fringe benefit. I post, and yeah sometimes preach, to remind myself of my own ideas. Writing it and committing it to the Internet is a good way for me to clarify my thoughts and compose things that would otherwise be left undefined, vague concepts. Any act ideas or brainstorms that are shared are done so in the hopes that someday the favor will be returned when I am stuck with a writing problem. These days, I spend the majority of my time stuck to a computer 9 - 5 and have to live the gypsy life vicariously through others, and P.Net is one of several ways I can do that.

          So, go figure, it is all about "me". Sometimes, I just like to hear myself type.

          Steven Ragatz

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          • Jim
            Administrator
            • Dec 2000
            • 1096

            #6
            Martin,

            That was a wonderfully honest essay. It was nice to read, even though that's pretty much exactly what I thought of you already. It was good to hear it in your words.

            And you are right about me, too. That's pretty much how it all happened. But I'm glad I had a few years of the busking circuit and got to know some of the "great unwashed" before they started coming here. OTOH, there are still dozens of active members here whom I've never met and I'd like to see their shows someday... including yours. When are we going to cross paths at a time when we're both performing???

            I hope you keep doing exactly what you're doing here. We miss you when you're gone.

            Jim

            P.S. Re: Karl:
            He's like geologically funny, theres a funny layer, then a profound layer then a funny layer, then it just gets deeper and deeper.


            So Funny... So True!

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            • Lynneski
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2000
              • 370

              #7
              One person's funny is another person's, well, funny

              "Nice." Bah. It's the Canadian Curse. I shall don my wondertwin epaulettes of Dorothy Parker and Fran Liebowitz and ... go away and think long and hard about something cutting and witty to reply. Call me nice, willya .... why I oughtta ....


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              Why don't we have a p.net version of "Duck, Duck, Goose", only we can call it "Funny, Helpful, Fodder".

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              I shall now always think of Karl as geologically funny. Brilliant.

              Of course, I have always thought of Martin as pathologically funny. It is a basal cell disease with him, I have only ever witnessed one remission.

              ***************************

              "When I was there I found their jokes like their roads - very long and not very good, leading to a little tin point of a spire which has been remorselessly obvious for miles without seeming to get any nearer. " (Samuel Butler on Canadians)

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              • martin ewen
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2000
                • 1887

                #8
                on reflection,

                Be curious, be funny, be helpful, be fodder.

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                • jester
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 1084

                  #9
                  It is an honour to be your fodder. How can you miss an arse this wide?

                  That doesn' mean we are going to be friends now. One can only have so many enemies and I need all of mine to be on the other side of the Atlantic.

                  If I thought you were terribly insecure, I really wouldn't bait you. I know you have issues, but I know you are comfortable on this thread.

                  There is no comfortable background music, I still think your wit is grossly over-rated, that at my arse kicking party you were about as useless as a one legged man, and I think your opinion of me is about as important as the epilets on Peters Pnet Concierge uniform.

                  I think you are absolutely unimportant as an individual and I have only hearsay to the fact that you are human and frankly I couldn't be bothered to write another word either for or against you.

                  No. Not one!

                  No. Never! Nope. Forget it.

                  I wouldn't give you the time of day (It's 20.27GMT)

                  I have never felt guilty, ashamed or humbled by anything you have ever said and I certainly wouldn't start a thread and name it after you, let alone allow it to become the 2nd most replied to thread in the history of this board
                  - the 1st most popular having been started by yourself and having almost 5 times as many viewings as the 2nd most replied to thread (discounting Rumples cos he talks to himself and accounts for 85% of his replies.)



                  and if you can't see the humour in my postings, it is because there isn't any at all. I really do mean all those subtle oxymorons so there is absolutley no point in tuning in cos I aint going to insult your limited intelligence by spelling the jokes out to you. That would be like acknowleding you as a sentient life form.

                  So don't justify yourself to me, you've beaten the booze and won the girl why the fuck do you need validation.

                  Right I tried to be nice, now I gotta go and be sick..

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                  • em
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 249

                    #10
                    to read a book does not mean you know the author. writing is a place for fiction and fantasy and of course truth.But to really know someone i think you have to actually have to meet them in the flesh. This is a site where you only read words. You do not see the eyes or the expressions or the irony.

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                    • Peter Voice
                      Moderator
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 1065

                      #11
                      You're cute too, Lynneski.



                      Aim low, Gal, I'm ducking.
                      Last edited by Peter Voice; Apr-01-2005, 06:15 AM.
                      Every-one should watch their drawers!
                      http://www.chalkcircle.com.au/

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                      • Magrat2005
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 333

                        #12
                        I have something to say

                        You should toss out more of your funny remarks; that's all they're good for.

                        People can't say that you have absolutely nothing! After all, you have inferiority!

                        I don't think you are a fool. But then, what's my own humble opinion against thousands of others?

                        People say that you are the perfect idiot. I say that you are not perfect, but you are doing alright.

                        Sit down and give your mind a rest.

                        have a nice day!!

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                        • Stephon
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 651

                          #13
                          Magrat, you forgot

                          "take my wife, please"

                          and

                          "why did the boy throw the clock out the window?"

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                          • jester
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 1084

                            #14
                            She never forgot Stephon. She didn't want to steal ALL of your jokes.

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                            • Peter Voice
                              Moderator
                              • Dec 2000
                              • 1065

                              #15
                              Some stats to ponder.

                              Average posts per day.

                              Stephon 0.22
                              Firegirl 0.35
                              Myself 0.37
                              Jester 0.41
                              Taxi 0.44
                              Butterfly Man 0.62
                              Martin 0.63

                              Magrat 5.43
                              Last edited by Peter Voice; Apr-04-2005, 01:44 AM.
                              Every-one should watch their drawers!
                              http://www.chalkcircle.com.au/

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