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I know this, especially being from Colorado. You are right, for sure, but even if it's very quiet, voting still offers you to give your voice.Comment
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Butterfly, you have no idea how good it is to have you back on these boards. Make sure you vget cabnle in Hawaii next time, willya?
I heard an interesting argument for kerry votes yeaterday. it went like this. "Yes, it is a choice of two soaps made by the same chemical company, but it is your only chance to voice dissent."Comment
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Quote "Yes, it is a choice of two soaps made by the same chemical company, but it is your only chance to voice dissent." Quote
More like two paints made by the same paint company-they both gloss over the real facts.
Or two types of bacon- there's a lot of smoke but no fire.Comment
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swing your voter round n' round
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Dear Limey assholes
London | October 18
The Guardian - Last week G2 launched Operation Clark County to help readers have a say in the American election by writing to undecided voters in the crucial state of Ohio. In the first three days, more than 11,000 people requested addresses. Here is some of the reaction to the project that we received from the US
Provides quite an insight into the Republican voter's psyche IMHO. Be warned, some of the language used is fairly colourful - stonehouse
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By stonehouse in United Kingdom on Sun Oct 17th, 2004 at 11:58:43 PM PDT
Dear wonderful, loving friends from abroad,
We Ohioans are an ornery sort and don't take meddling well, even if it comes from people we admire and with their sincere goodwill. We are a fairly closed community overall. In my town of Springfield, I feel that there are some that consider people from the nearby cities of Columbus or Dayton, as "foreigners"- let alone someone from outside our country.
Springfield, Ohio
Have you not noticed that Americans don't give two shits what Europeans think of us? Each email someone gets from some arrogant Brit telling us why to NOT vote for George Bush is going to backfire, you stupid, yellow-toothed pansies ... I don't give a rat's ass if our election is going to have an effect on your worthless little life. I really don't. If you want to have a meaningful election in your crappy little island full of shitty food and yellow teeth, then maybe you should try not to sell your sovereignty out to Brussels and Berlin, dipshit. Oh, yeah - and brush your goddamned teeth, you filthy animals.
Wading River, NY
Right on! Just wanted to say thanks from California for your effort and concern. This IS a very important election ... There are so many people here in the States that care about the impact America has on the rest of the world. I am personally saddened for the loss of all innocent lives. The best statement Americans can make to the rest of the world is to not elect Bush for president. Thank you so much for getting involved in our world.
California
Consider this: stay out of American electoral politics. Unless you would like a company of US Navy Seals - Republican to a man - to descend upon the offices of the Guardian, bag the lot of you, and transport you to Guantanamo Bay, where you can share quarters with some lonely Taliban shepherd boys.
United States
I am a student and life-long resident of Clark County, Ohio. I just wanted you to know that this is a wonderful idea you've initiated; people here love and respect the United Kingdom, especially the prime minister. I hope this campaign will be successful for your newspaper and for us voters.
Springfield, Ohio
KEEP YOUR FUCKIN' LIMEY HANDS OFF OUR ELECTION. HEY, SHITHEADS, REMEMBER THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR? REMEMBER THE WAR OF 1812? WE DIDN'T WANT YOU, OR YOUR POLITICS HERE, THAT'S WHY WE KICKED YOUR ASSES OUT. FOR THE 47% OF YOU WHO DON'T WANT PRESIDENT BUSH, I SAY THIS ... TOUGH SHIT!
PROUD AMERICAN VOTING FOR BUSH!
Shame on you for using the people of Ohio like this. The US presidental election isn't just about foreign policy, it's about healthcare, taxes, education, transportation, natural resources and all manner of issues with little to no impact on the people of Britain.
We live in a globalised, interconnected world. If China shuts its borders to US imports, you better believe American companies, shareholders and workers are affected. Should US citizens therefore have a direct say in Chinese policies? No - Americans should demand that their own elected leaders address the issues with their Chinese counterparts. The British have a similar voice in US policies - through your own elected representatives who have any number of diplomatic, economic and military tools at their disposal. You vote for your leaders and we'll vote for ours. Your problem is with your leaders, not ours.
Washington DC
Real Americans aren't interested in your pansy-ass, tea-sipping opinions. If you want to save the world, begin with your own worthless corner of it.
Texas, USA
Thank you, thank you, thank you! What a wonderful idea! I am a US citizen who is scared to death that Bush and Klan will get back in. We need all the help we can get to ditch this bunch of maniacs.
United States
I just read a hilarious proposal to involve your readership in the upcoming US presidential election. At least, I'm hoping that it is genius satire. Nothing will do more to undermine the Democratic cause in Ohio than having patronising Brits wander around Clark County telling people how to vote. Just, for a second, imagine if the Washington Post sent folks from Ohio to do the same in Oxfordshire. I'm saying this as a Democrat, and as someone who has spent the last few years in the UK. That is, with all due respect. Please, please, be rational, and move slowly away from the self-defeating hubris.
United States
I enjoy reading your paper and agree with your politics, but this is really too much.Your plan, if carried out, will hurt the Bush opposition TERRIBLY. We cannot afford to have this associated with John Kerry or anyone else. It will be; the press is going in for a kill, days before the election.
United States
Your idea is superb and frankly, we need a little help over here right now.
Ohio
My dear, beloved Brits,
I understand the Guardian is sponsoring a service where British citizens write to Americans to advise them on how to vote. Thank heavens! I was adrift in a sea of confusion and you are my beacon of hope!
Feel free to respond to this email with your advice. Please keep in mind that I am something of an anglophile, so this is not confrontational. Please remember, too, that I am merely an American. That means I am not very bright. It means I have no culture or sense of history. It also means that I am barely literate, so please don't use big, fancy words.
Set me straight, folks!
Dayton, Ohio
Hey England, Scotland and Wales,
Mind your own business. We don't need weenie-spined Limeys meddling in our presidental election. If it wasn't for America, you'd all be speaking German. And if America would have had a president, then, of the likes of Kerry, you'd all be goose-stepping around Buckingham Palace. YOU ARE NOT WANTED!! Whether you want to support either party. BUTT OUT!!!
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Hell is -273 degrees Kelvin
October 20, 2004
The Red Socks win the pennant
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and I voted for the 1st time ...
now, if only I could skate ... naked.Last edited by Butterfly Man; Oct-21-2004, 04:10 AM.Comment
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Better late than never, my faith restored, yee ha
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I was just down in Maryland for 2 days for a quick gig & visit to family and while I was there I voted. I live in Boston, but I've never bothered to change my registration (both states are going to Kerry, so it's not a big deal).
Anyway, I went to the election board, and asked to vote by early / absentee ballot. I explained to the nice twenty something girl behind the counter that I had lost my voter card a long time ago and she said it didn't matter, she just asked me my name and address. She explained the ballot to me with much ado and made sure I understood everything. I then went to a little booth and filled in the appropriate boxes with a number 2 pencil and walked back up to the counter where I sealed the ballot. She made me sign the back and said "that's it!"
I was just about to hand it to her, when I asked her "Don't you want to see even a single piece of identification?" When I said this the other people in line immediate perked up.
She looked stunned. "Why? You signed the back and that means you swear that you are the registered voter."
"Yes, but I could be LYING."
She stood there stammering and before she got too suspicious and ripped up my ballot I said "Just kidding! No really, I do have a serious question: I understand that in some states absentee ballots are not counted unless the election is contested and there is a recount. Is that the situation here?"
"Oh no! In Maryland every vote is counted!"
"But what if I was black?"
blank stare.
"Just messing with you! Have a nice day!!!"
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