STUPIDEST QUESTION I'VE EVER HEARD...

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  • firegirl
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2001
    • 452

    STUPIDEST QUESTION I'VE EVER HEARD...

    ...SO, was at the brisol ren. faire last weekend visiting my pals phil "variety comedy jedi master" johnson (aka, MOONIE) and the rogues of scotland... anyhow - just kind of sitting around at the end of the day bs-ing w/some peeps i ran into who i used to do california shows with - and, this rennie girl whom i sort of remembered being around at some shows i did comes up, sits down and starts listening to our conversation... the topic was fire eating -- my friend beth had come to the faire w/tom and myself -- and, beth had started fire eating about a year previous... we were discussing various methods and opinions people have about learning how to do mouth/torch tricks... the close the lips or close the teeth on the torch debate (and, personally - i recommend the teeth - as, when you're just starting out you're more likely to burn the f-k out of your lips... and, big blisters are VERY unattractive.) different torch wraps - fuel preferences... boring bs that only people who do this kind of stuff for a living have much of an interest in...

    anyhow - at this point beth and i are discussing a female friend i have in cali - who is already a very capable juggler and whip artist - and, how all the guys we know out there have been refusing to coach her in some of the finer points of eating fire (which she wants to put into the show she's been developing for herself) and that when we get to san fran - how we're gonna give her some pointers.

    so - random rennie girl says: "oh cool - you TEACH fire eating? could you teach me sometime?"

    now - my general disposition has always been that i won't TEACH anyone how to eat fire... that you have to kind of figure it out on your own... that's how i learned... y'know - asked around about different fuels to use - went online and found instructions on how to build poor-man torches... and, went out and just kind of opened my mouth and stuck them in... at that point other fire eaters i knew gave me some coaching on some different stunts i could do -- transfers, suspends... that sort of thing... and i always tell everyone who asks me to teach them to go find out information on their own and when they can sucessfully put a flaming torch into their mouth, then we'll talk... [which the woman in cali has already done... so beth and i are very willing to give her some pointers, etc - as she's demonstrated that she' a very capable performer...]

    so - i give my usual schpeile to random rennie girl... and, she's kind of nodding along with what beth and i are saying... then she asks what kind of fuel to use - so we tell her that we both use coleman's camp fuel for our torch stunts (it comes in quantity and it dosen't taste that bad... burns cool and is pretty close to using white gas...) she then looks at us and says:

    "so do you think that if i was fire eating with that fuel that it would hurt my baby? i'm only four months along..."

    and - that is the STUPIDEST question i've ever heard... will it hurt your baby? F YES! it's POISON... it damages the liver and gives you diarreah if you consume too much... SHEESH.

    stoopid, stoopid random rennie girl.
  • Stretch
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2001
    • 611

    #2
    If she was stupid for asking, what would she have been if she hadn't asked?

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    • firegirl
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2001
      • 452

      #3
      ... i suppose that's a good point...

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      • Steven Ragatz
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2001
        • 493

        #4
        Taken from my dictionary:

        Ignorant \Ig"no*rant\, a. [F., fr. L. ignorans, -antis, p. pr.
        of ignorare to be ignorant. See Ignore.]
        1. Someone who doesn't know that the fuel used for a street fire act is poisonous, and can seriously compromise one's health.

        Stupid \Stu"pid\, a. [L. stupidus, fr. stupere to be stupefied:
        cf. F. stupide.]
        1. Someone who knows that the fuel used for a street fire act is poisonous, and can seriously compromise one's health - but sticks it in her mouth anyway.

        (FOL: we each choose our own stupidity. And yes, for their benefit, you are probably right not to "teach" anyone else how to do fire eating, though I don't think that telling them to go figure it out on their own is exactly the kindest alternative.)

        Steven Ragatz

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        • Cybele
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2002
          • 126

          #5
          Oh, I dunno...my kids seem all right...

          (four...three..two...one....)

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          • firegirl
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2001
            • 452

            #6
            [quote]Originally posted by Steven Ragatz:
            FOL: we each choose our own stupidity. And yes, for their benefit, you are probably right not to "teach" anyone else how to do fire eating, though I don't think that telling them to go figure it out on their own is exactly the kindest alternative.)

            Steven Ragatz[/QB]<hr></blockquote>

            you are right... however, it just struck me as a kind of common sense question... it seems way to obvious that any of the substances used in fire eating/blowing is poison -- and, if the general medical advice for those who are with child is not to smoke or drink as it'll hurt their baby - that fire eating would be something which would be an obvious harmful act to self and to a growing child within...

            and, i find that those who really want to learn fire eating will go and find out information on how to do so - and, by telling people that i won't teach them how to outright discourages those people who just think it'll be something nifty to learn how to do to impress friends and neighbors... eh...?

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            • Steven Ragatz
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2001
              • 493

              #7
              Cybele,

              If you thought the FAS (Fetal Alcohol Syndrome) photos were bad, just wait 'til you see the FCT (Fetal Coleman's Syndrome) disk...

              Others,

              No confrontation intended, just stating the obvious that intentionally exposing oneself to hazardous chemicals is unnecessary and self destructive. But, to each is own. If it weren't gas, it would be the cigarettes or booze. We pick our poisons.

              Steven Ragatz

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              • Cybele
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2002
                • 126

                #8
                Actually, Kate, I totally agree with you. When anyone asks me, "will you teach me?" I want to know why. If I think they are responsible people who will perform responsibly, I give them safety and practical (not performance, I have limits)tips. And then only if they're over 21. Saves me lots of headaches and pointless teaching sessions.

                (And when I was pregnant, I switched to grain alcohol anyway. Cleaner. Like Steven. Gotta love Steven...he's so CLEAN.)

                Cybele

                PS- Who was the writer on that FCS disc?

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                • scot
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 1169

                  #9
                  People don't know all the things that you know. This isn't ness. because they're stupid. It's because they know different things. The girl probably didn't know that you ingest or absorb any of the fuel.

                  To publicly agree with Steve for the first time, I believe that fire eating is stupid. Instead of making a thread about it, I just assume you wick lickers know something I don't.

                  Scot

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                  • Stretch
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 611

                    #10
                    [quote] the FCT (Fetal Coleman's Syndrome) disk... <hr></blockquote>

                    I supose you are refering to the fuel, not the clown? The NINE FOOT TALL CLOWN?!!!

                    Actualy, I've always wanted to make up some gag fetal sonagram cards.
                    "Wanna see my kid?" And show them a sonagram with a kid with a big red nose and clown shoes . . .!

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                    • firegirl
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 452

                      #11
                      [quote]Originally posted by Stretch:
                      Actualy, I've always wanted to make up some gag fetal sonagram cards.
                      "Wanna see my kid?" And show them a sonagram with a kid with a big red nose and clown shoes . . .![/QB]<hr></blockquote>

                      -- didn't penn and teller do something like that? i thought i saw that in one of their books somewhere...
                      ???

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                      • firegirl
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 452

                        #12
                        [quote]Originally posted by scot:
                        [QB]People don't know all the things that you know. This isn't ness. because they're stupid. It's because they know different things. The girl probably didn't know that you ingest or absorb any of the fuel.

                        To publicly agree with Steve for the first time, I believe that fire eating is stupid. Instead of making a thread about it, I just assume you wick lickers know something I don't.
                        <hr></blockquote>

                        well scot - i don't understand why people put their faces in glass and let people step on their heads... or, why people learn how to juggle... but, i don't call it stupid...

                        as for me - fire eating happens to fit in well with the comedy routine i've developed for myself... my act is far more stand-up and a couple of semi-impressive stunts - than back to back stunts with a little patter thrown in between... that and, i think it looks cool.

                        i don't know how the the stoopid rennie girl couldn't have understood that she'd be injesting fuel... you're EATING fire... which involves putting it IN YOUR MOUTH...

                        u don't gotta be a rocket scientist to figure that out...

                        ::smacks head - duh, duh, duh::

                        anyhow -- all this brew-ha-ha about a story which i posted merely for amusement factor... sheesh.

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                        • martin ewen
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2000
                          • 1887

                          #13
                          Yes its always 'amusing' to feel superior while pointing to the stupidity of others. I must try it sometime. To presume you ingest something simply because you put it into your mouth and because its called 'eating' might leave some people with the impression that people actually ingest each others sexual organs.
                          But that would be stupid wouldn't it.

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                          • firegirl
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 452

                            #14
                            you know - i DID find it amusing... the people i was WITH found it amusing... the STOOPID RENNIE GIRL found it amusing after it was explained to her how stoopid her question was...

                            GAWD... i was just sharing something i found amusing in my life.

                            y'all are quicker to land on someone and judge them than a fly is to land on SH!&... and - people are alluding to ME being condecending and superior?

                            puh-leeeeeeeeaaase.

                            [ 08-04-2003: Message edited by: firegirl ]</p>

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                            • firegirl
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 452

                              #15
                              [quote]Originally posted by martin ewen:
                              <strong>Yes its always 'amusing' to feel superior while pointing to the stupidity of others. I must try it sometime. To presume you ingest something simply because you put it into your mouth and because its called 'eating' might leave some people with the impression that people actually ingest each others sexual organs.
                              But that would be stupid wouldn't it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

                              OH... and... btw - martin. the mouth is made up of tissue which does absorb nutrients, toxins and other substances without actually "eating" or swallowing them. hence - it is common knowledge in this day and age that it is possiable to contract communicable diseases by kissing (such as the flu, mono, a cold... etc...) and by having another person's bodily fluids in one's mouth (hiv/aids.)

                              why else would they have EVER invented a contraption such as the dental dam?

                              it is also possiable to take in toxins through the tissue in your mouth - which can lead to you being drunk and feeling the effects of drugs or toxic chemicals without swallowing them...

                              i don't know about anyone else - however - i learned these and other fun facts in HIGH SCHOOL biology and health class...

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