baroque Rumble

[fracksfreakshow]

ok frack is lost, but could it be that chance and rumple are one in the same? chance = rumple, is it true? alter ego's, split personality, whatever it be? anyone actually ever seen these two together at the same time or always they both just happen to miss each other by seconds? yep yep frack attack.

[Prof Willie B]

"Curiouser and curiouser, wherever we might be."
Said the Cheshire Cat from high in his tree.


Rumple, Rumple, where art thou
Are you on the floor with the weird escapologist
Or should we send him for a brain scan at the local proctologist?

Isn't there a Vienna in Virginia? Which continent are we talking about here? Has chance got Rumple captive, chained and hand-cuffed, somewhere in religious belts of eastern US? Has he got him trapped in that beautiful old straight-jacket that he cant fit into any more(let alone get out of again)?

Don't worry Rumple, if he has got you, we're on out way but if you get the chance to escape, do so. He's got to sleep sometime and we know you can outlast us all. Hang in there, think of Dantes.

[Chance]

psssst! Hey, Martin, over here.

Maybe the reason there has been no word from Rumble is that there aren't any internet connections on busses in Europe? From what I hear it's a fair bit from Vienna to Amsterdam, and since he hit the road at 6:30 pm yesterday... Even with your foot in your mouth you could do the math.

[Chance]

Hey Frack! Since you really are an innocent by-stander I am going to let you in on something which might help clear things up a little.

Something got started two years ago on the original p.net boards where I was unjustly accused of stealing from another busker.

No matter what I said about the matter there were always three voices here crying out what a scoundrel I was. I say 'scoundrel' only because it would be impossible to go back and catalog all the other words that were used.

But it would be accurate to say that I was called some very foul names many, many times by these 3 people. And just like here, my "credibility" was an issue. I was not to be believed no matter how much I protested my innocence.

The original claim had been made, my accuser was a friend of theirs so he was to be believed at all costs, and that was that -- end of discussion: Chance did it! More than once it was mentioned that Jim should ban me from these boards for having stolen from another busker... and all of this was just because of the verbal claims of one person, someone who has something to hide which I personally knew about and would do anything to discredit me -- and who had not one piece of evidence against me regarding this suppossed theft. Because of my history with this person (with something to hide) I was positive that no theft had even taken place to begin with.

For me all I can say it that it was all quite surreal.

And then, after roughly two years into the whole crazy scene of having to answer weekly, if not daily, accusations, insults and various other harrassment from these people who just would not let me be at peace here, the impossible happened: the real thief got named and outed in these forums by Robert Nelson.

Ever since then the harrassment has tapered off quite a bit, but it has not gone away completely. By now it seems the habit of attacking me is so ingrained in these folks that they just can not let it go.

Just in case you are wondering -- no, nobody has ever made the attempt to apologize for their insults and false accusations. Not here in the public boards where most of the attacks took place, or even to my private email account.

And the weirdest part of all of the whole thing -- as if being accused for two years of a crime I did not commit isn't crazy enough -- is that my accusers are people I have never even met in person! Not even to this day.

So now we have come full circle.

Now, in this thread, all that happened as you can see is that Rumple was visiting Vienna for a festival and was put up in my home. And for this I am attacked -- yes, by the very same people that were attacking me from before. Can you see how crazy and surreal it all is? My girlfriend is totally amazed by the extreme rudeness (to put it mildly) that she has seen here. She is actually a very sweet and gentle person (very much like Rumble himself) and just can not for the life of her understand what is to be gained by all this negativity.

I hope that helps to clear things up a little, Frack -- but don't be at all surprised if this letter only encourages them to attack harder still. I won't be. It is very clear to me that they would rather do this than to admit how wrong they all were in the first place.

But if you ever get the chance to visit Europe Frack be sure to give me a shout.

Be well...

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[fracksfreakshow]

yep yep, frack meant no harm on it and just trying to spread a little frack joy to the world of p.net. just found it extemely funny gettting accused of not having someone visit you. truly didn't understand it and found it odd so had to jump on board. and when frack finds a real permanent place to live all are welcome to visit. just don't pet fracks ferrets they bite. and no uni'ing around anything expensive or doing anything with fire over the carpet. and no smoking frack allergic. that's all that can think of now, sure some more out there missed. yep yep frack attack.

[Prof Willie B]

chance, your stuff makes my girlfriend giggle, especially the photo. I like it when she laughs, it lightens my day.

[gerry nelson]

Hey Chance , you know the worst part of you posting so much on this site is having to look at that annoying photo that accompanies your posts

[Prof Willie B]

Sorry Gerry, must have just beaten you by a few seconds there. My girl just about wets herself every time she sees chance's signature image. I mean really?

[gerry nelson]

G'day Prof, I'm an old Melbourne boy myself. Grew up in a place called Montmorency, out Eltham way. Are you a local?

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[Mr.Taxi Trix]

My girlfriend thinks the Chance photo is a huge turn on. But then, that crazy nymph thinks everything is. She does not believe its a bad thing, Martin, that my hand passes through her once in awhile. In fact, she finds it to be a turn on.

[Prof Willie B]

Gerry, I'm a girl for a start, not so old, but definitely Melbourne. And Taxi, my girl too, likes what can be done with a hand passing through.

[Mr.Taxi Trix]

I'm sorry. Martin ewen here, I forgot to log out and am using taxi's computer


All this dissinformation fair makes my head spin.
Its not about shoes, shoes were a classic frame up and you still havn't cottoned on. No-one ever thought you took the shoes for the simple reason that the shoes were never taken.
You annoyed Brady and all he would have to do was mention his shoes having gone missing and did you know anything about it and off you'd go. You have never been directly accused of anything, there were inferrences sure and your overreactions were a source of much pleasure. (except when you e-mailed Jim and threatened to sue him for defamation of character because it was his website) [Humour 1--Chance-Nil]
So let the shoes go chance, it just make you look silly.
What annoyed a lot of people a long time ago and was undeniably fact was that for your own reasons you invented a persona that you used to wind up someone who wasn't equiped to handle your cruel games and who, already mentally unstable, went into a frantic multiposting tailspin.
It was one of the reasons that P.net now has a validation system for postings.
This week its that same pattern again.
I'd like to find out from rumple whether the post in his name was written by him or not.
I don't buy the bus. I buy the post from Amsterdam from Rumple asking who the 'other' rumple might be.
You can use all the smoke and mirrors you like but its not in your hands, its in Rumples.
And chance, we have met, so why say we havn't. Why you persist in inventing circumstances to suit with no regard to reality has us all worried sick about your mental health.
You tried to crash my scheduled timeslot at the fremantle fest a few years back, admittedly you saw an opening for a show and took it and apoligised and quit when I arrived but we have met and it was a beautiful thing. (one of the first recorded Chance apoligies)

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[Chance]

[quote]Originally posted by Mr.Taxi Trix:
[QB]I'm sorry. Martin ewen here, I forgot to log out and am using taxi's computer<hr></blockquote>

So just do what Rumple did here at my place and log out as Taxi and re-login as Martin. So simple even Rumple and I figured it out.

[quote]All this dissinformation fair makes my head spin.
Its not about shoes, shoes were a classic frame up and you still havn't cottoned on. No-one ever thought you took the shoes for the simple reason that the shoes were never taken.<hr></blockquote>

Shoes? Who ever mentioned shoes? Not me. I mentioned being called a liar and a thief.

Never caught on you say? Do you really think I am that stupid, Martin? Then read again... the part where I just said that I never really believed that anything had ever been taken in the first place. A fact I also mentioned to Jim in a private email once.

Notwithstanding the above, what is worse than accusing a person with something as damaging as theft, Martin? Answer: accusing a person of a theft that never took place at all.

Do you seriously expect me to sit back while you, the Prof, Peter Voice and Brady post anything you like about me? Sure I am going to respond! If you take some perverted satisfaction from the fact that you can push my button in this manner, then it shows your true colors, not mine.

The busking community we live in is small, volatile enough to begin with, and takes only a small spark to set the whole thing ablaze. This post, and the very subject we are speaking on are proof enough of this.

Do I care a whit if you like me or my show? Nope, trust me, not a bit. Do I care if you sit around and gossip about my personal habits or make me the butt of your jokes? No again. Not phased in the least -- trust me; skin's a tough a rhino hide. But am I to sit idly by while you write things that could be believed, taken at face value, and used as a basis on whether or not I am to be trusted, as a measure of my integrity? Really? Sit by and say nothing?

Hell, you have some nerve. You can't even sit still long enough to let Rumple and I write a funny letter together!

Here's a news flash! I HATE polluting these boards with the kind of trash we are slinging around right now. But until and unless you stop spewing out this trash it will sadly keep being repeated. Kind of like a Catch 22 scenario, with the ball in your court.

[quote]You have never been directly accused of anything...<hr></blockquote>

This is a lie, and a very bad one at that -- although a very easy statement for you to make since we both know most of these letters have been deleted. I was directly accused many times about this fiasco. For example, as recently as last September I was accused of this same theft in a thread that I had begun under "Announcements", a thread which Jim then deleted.

[quote]...(except when you e-mailed Jim and threatened to sue him for defamation of character because it was his website)...<hr></blockquote>

This is also not true. I happen to know Jim, admire him very much for all of the great work he has done with p.net, and have never, at any time or for any reason threatened him with anything, much less a defamation suit.

And since when does Jim need you to speak for him? (You do this a lot you know -- speaking for Rumple, speaking for Brady, speaking for Jim...) These are his web pages after all, and I assume he gets around to reading everything here at least as much as anyone else.

[quote]I'd like to find out from rumple whether the post in his name was written by him or not.<hr></blockquote>

And then what? Rush to the nearest computer and profusely apologize for yet again calling me a liar and an asshole for absolutely no reason? Right. I'm holding my breath for that one.

Jesus effing Christ Martin, what is it to you in the first place? Is Rumple your friend or not? From your letters here you seem to admire him a great deal. And he stayed in my flat for the first night he was in Vienna. So what, and what business is it of yours? If he is your friend, and if you really do admire him as much as you let on, then why in the world do you have so much that is so blatantly negative to say about the fact that Katharina and I showed him some kindness and hospitality his first trip here?

[quote]I don't buy the bus. I buy the post from Amsterdam from Rumple asking who the 'other' rumple might be. You can use all the smoke and mirrors you like but its not in your hands, its in Rumples.<hr></blockquote>

For your information, Martin, before Rumple left Vienna I specifically asked him to not add to this thread. You and Barry had so quickly added your nonsense and I wanted to see how much more you would put your foot (feet) in it. As it turns out, A LOT more.

But, there is another way. And I am betting that Jim has already tried it. I'll bet that he has already compared the ISP signatures of the original 4 postings here and found that they matched.

And what is all this nonsense about 'credibility' in the first place? Please show me even one time where you have been able to correct a serious mis-statement on my part? Just one...

[quote]And chance, we have met, so why say we havn't.<hr></blockquote>

If brushing past someone on the way to pitch qualifies for your definition of meeting, then yes we have "met" (for under 5 seconds).

[quote]You tried to crash my scheduled timeslot at the fremantle fest a few years back...<hr></blockquote>

No, actually it was my time slot, not yours, but shows that night at that spot were running a hour behind. It didn't occur to me because at the last pitch everything had been on time. All I knew was that the time was mine, the pitch was empty when I arrived, so I began to set up. It was then that you arrived to take your time, an hour later than it should have been but correct in the lineup. I was right about the times, you were right about the lineup, and the mix-up was an honest mistake on both our parts.

Amazing what a difference a little perspective makes.

Man these twisted gherkins Rumble left behind sure taste good...GoOsE!!!!! <img src="graemlins/jester.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" />

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[Chance]

[quote]Originally posted by Prof Willie B:
<strong>chance, your stuff makes my girlfriend giggle, especially the photo. I like it when she laughs, it lightens my day.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Prof, if there is anything I like it is giggling lesbians. Glad I could help out. BTW, the photo you keep making reference to was taken by a newspaper editor for a festival promo article. But you know, it is but a mere shadow of the real thing so I wouldn't let your girlfriend get to close if I were you. I had a bounty on my, ahem, head when living in Key West for all of the unhappy lezzies I left dangling there. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[martin ewen]

Your powers of delusion are amazing chance.
That lesbians would be attracted to you is sidesplitting but made sad by the fact that some part of you truely believes.
If it was an attempt at humour then I commend your wisdom in sticking to magic proffessionaly.
When Rumple tells us all he was at your place I'll issue an apoligy but he'll have to explain why he posted from amsterdam questioning whether there was more than one rumple first.

Still unanswered is a post with your name but his signiture.
(not as you state- the inverse)

Still its all just a matter of time really one way or the other.
We've met, face to face, we didn't brush. Your reasons for poaching are your own and irrelivent as all I said to you was 'Look at the program' (I said it 3 times it was all I wanted to say)
It was 8-30, I was on at 8-30, all else is fluff.
We have met, you said we havn't, its not a matter of degrees, your wrong. (That would make you a liar at least technically)
Verification of schedule if you wish can be had from Alex marshal, the programmer and organiser
info@ghosts.com.au

As to Jim, he could clear it up himself if he wanted to but I suspect its about time for him to step in and remind us to act more proffessionally.

The shoes really got to you though, What shoes? you ask.
Your salvage attempts are truely awesome.

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