Out yourself here!

[fracksfreakshow]

What if Pokie poke likes it though? Then would that make him a homo?

[martin ewen]

This insidious slant that speculates that homosexuality is caused by amongst other things broken homes and sexual abuse seems to by its position to infer that sexuality , (when not nice and hetro and middle class and clad in Gap) is somehow the product of trauma.
"Poor poor gay people-I'd be attracted to anuses if my life was one huge one as well."
(I just used anuses for effect-Don't bother)
The world is full of gay animals-or animals that predominently engage in homosexual behaviour, (thats all it is in my opinion-behaviour)
And you'd be hard pressed to link these frolicing monkeys, birds and yaks with childhood indignities and dads who ran off with the toll booth operator.
I think the phrase I'm looking for is left wing liberal velvet glove bigotry.
Here chook, chook , chook ,chook.....

[Barry]

frack--if pokie likes it that would make him homosexual or more likely bisexual (we are still referring to a hypothetically male pokie)...but , i can´t help thinking that perhaps the term homo is offensive to those who are homosexual

[Stephon]

It's an old story that, for example, a woman who was abandoned by her father as a child is likely to spend her adult life in a string of desperate relationships with men who will ultimately leave her; we seem to recreate the traumas of our childhood.

So, Martin, is a gay man who, as a child, was sexually abused by his uncle gay because of that abuse? I don't think so either (I don't believe sexuality, gay or straight, is a "condition"), but the truth is, we don't really know for sure what causes people to behave the way they do. I suppose it would make just as much sense that that same boy who was abused by his uncle would have grown up to an ultra-macho, cock-swinging stud who fucked a different woman every night and went out gay-bashing with his friends on alternate Sundays.

I don't think there's anything bigoted about speculating on the origins of sexual behavior (although I think it is ultimately a pointless exercise), unless that speculation leads to discrimination and hate-mongering.

[martin ewen]

I love pointless exercises. Getting up in the morning, going to bed at night, inhaling, exhaling.
To presume childhood trauma as a motivation for adult behaviour strikes me as a reluctance to grow up and fully accept responsibility for your actions.
There are just as many examples of painfull childhoods producing fully functioning productive balanced individuals as there are sorry tales of semi-concious quazi-adults blundering pitifully and repetitively through either a blinkered script of their upbringing or its inverse.
My point, other than chickens have many uses, is that trauma and sexuality are not related (in my opinion) and that to presume so infers a patronising superiority which has at its core a semi-disguised bigotry. Or the other aspect which is denial, "I was born straight but then sat on an electric toothbrush as a child and now am doomed/afflicted/reprogrammed by circumstance."
I, for example had an extremely ordinary and loved fulled upbringing and now as an adult I 'm proffessionally unhappy, I have sex (not poultry sex)at about the same frequency as Bin Laden purchases aftershave and I prattle on at P.net on any given subject because other than scaring children and adults for a living and experimenting with incoherence as a hobby I have very little else that interests me.
All these aspects are choices I've made.
Its much more fun than it sounds.
(ask nick)

[Jim]

An article on Gay Orangutangs (Hey that sounds like a band name.)

www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news

[Mr.Taxi Trix]

All well and good, in theory, until it is revealed that Martin's loving upbringing took place in New Zealand, and that he had a neighbor by the name of...


... Foghorn Leghorn.

(this inside scoop brought to you by Extreme Skills Productions.)

[Stephon]

Damn it, Martin, don't you make light of the toothbrush incident--that was a very personal moment for Bristly and me!

[Butterfly Man]

And I thought that toothbrush incident was just between me and Nickyboy ... that two timing bicuspid!

[Jenny]

Hey!
I'm starting a new band this winter; "Jenny and the Gay Orangutangs."
A sort of funk/rhythm/electronica/jazz vocal blend.
So... who among you fagots are going to back me up?

-J

[Prof Willie B]

I play good guitar and my "male procreator" always thought I looked like a monkey so can I join? I can also play the strings of chance but I'm hopeless on the horn.

[nick nickolas]

A Gerbil landed at the right moment can be a lot of fun,
but when it goes missing it is a pain in the arse!

Ask Martin...

[Peter Voice]

Ah, now I know where the small freeze-dried animal that the customs officers seized from Bev's luggage came from. It was stuck head first in the little plastic Hilton Hotel Honey Haircare bottle left over from Edmonton.

[martin ewen]

I'm just a sleazy R18 Dr Dolittle.
Wanted- animal love-dead or alive.

[Butterfly Man]

I've got a slightly used "push-me-pull-ya", if you pay the postage!

P.S. For Jenny: he's one helluva reed player too, baby.