Butterfly Man: a teacher/role model?

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  • Butterfly Man
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2000
    • 1606

    Butterfly Man: a teacher/role model?

    I just received this ... and I'm wondering how to proceed ... any advice?




    My son is difficult. But he has tremendous natural ability. He has never been trained but I know he has the genetics for juggling. He is Sean McKinney's biological son.

    I was wondering if you had any interest in taking on a difficult student who may turn out to be something great? I can't think of a better way to save him from himself and the horrible views instilled in him by the man who raised him.

    He is unaware of his heritage. Very few people know. I have only begun to share this because I feel liberated from the horror story I was living.

    Sorry to hit you with all of this so abruptly. I'm just trying to find solutions. I think you would be a great teacher for an angry, disrespectful, bad ass kid.
  • Rachel Peters
    Moderator
    • Nov 2005
    • 1396

    #2
    When will you ever get another chance?
    Doesn't everyone want a protege?
    Well, maybe I WILL just keep telling myself that.

    www.rachelpeters.com

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    • Evan Young
      Senior Member
      • May 2001
      • 1002

      #3
      Oh man.

      Do you have Kenny's contact info? He seemed to be Sean's closest friend, I would ask him.
      Man, it might be a world of mess, but Sean was the best juggler who ever lived in my book.

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      • gav
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2003
        • 916

        #4
        Un/fortunately I'm not really connected to any juggling 'scene'
        Anyone(apart from google) care to inform me of Seans significance?
        How old is it possible for his son to be ?

        If he's got talent and in the same place as you, and you have a lot of free time and feel like you missed out on fathering your own child, then I guess it might be worth a shot.

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        • Rachel Peters
          Moderator
          • Nov 2005
          • 1396

          #5
          and you could shave his head and give him a tattoo.
          Well, maybe I WILL just keep telling myself that.

          www.rachelpeters.com

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          • Evan Young
            Senior Member
            • May 2001
            • 1002

            #6


            Sean McKinney was/is my favorite juggler of all time. He set apart an entirely different style of juggling, kind of a rebel amongst jugglers. He grew up in San Diego, and learned street performing there, but probably spent most of his street performing days in Boulder Colorado.
            What was amazing about his skills was how sloppy he was. Most "technical jugglers" perform with a precision that makes it look easy and seamless, but sean would throw up 5 torch back crosses in a way that looked like it would never work, but did anyway. Every throw was in individual effort that you cared about, and the same with every catch. His humor was dry and sarcastic and cutting. He was just as funny off stage as he was on stage.
            Sean was the guy who got me started as a street performer in Boulder. His show style influenced me a lot; I only wish I could juggle like he could.

            Sean developed a bad bipolar disorder and was committed to a state hospital by a caring friend after a scary incident. The medications he was put on did bad things to his equilibrium, which did bad things to his juggling abilities, which did bad things to his sense of self identity (IMO). Bipolar is one of the most difficult disorders to treat and every case is different. Sadly, Sean's case ended tragically.

            He was in intense friend, very present. I and everyone who knew him really misses him.
            Robert: Let me know if there is anything I can do for the kid.... I owe Sean so much....
            Last edited by Evan Young; May-30-2009, 06:01 PM.

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            • Mr.Taxi Trix
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2000
              • 1273

              #7
              Run in the other direction as fast as your feet will take you. There's no cheese down that tunnel. Do something that will bring results, like picking up trash on the side of the road.

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              • Rachel Peters
                Moderator
                • Nov 2005
                • 1396

                #8
                Speaking of which, I've heard Butterman tell some really great stories about picking up trash on the side of the road. He should tell them here, I think.

                But, ok, I feel like perhaps this mother is a real romantic and has watched "To Sir With Love" a few too many times, because it's one thing to teach a child how to juggle... But I don't know if she's going to get the results she's hoping for. If she's counting on Robert to transform a troubled child into an outstanding moral character simply through learning a skill... hmm. What does she really want Robert to do here? Learning a craft to hopefully help him focus is one thing. That could be great.
                But to expect it to fix the kid, and to rely on Robert to do it... That's a bit scary.
                (I like Robert a lot. I'm just sayin'.)
                Well, maybe I WILL just keep telling myself that.

                www.rachelpeters.com

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                • Lee Nelson
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 352

                  #9
                  send him an autographed ´how to juggle book´

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                  • Mr.Taxi Trix
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 1273

                    #10
                    Before trying any teaching, learn to juggle.


                    BWAAAA HA HAAA!

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                    • le pire
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 1113

                      #11
                      Refer this patient to Dr. Eric.

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                      • Doctor Eric
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 955

                        #12
                        wait, what the hell am I supposed to do with him? Teach him how to drink and womanize?

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                        • Butterfly Man
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2000
                          • 1606

                          #13
                          Fatherly advice by Dr. Eric Bogosian

                          3 things:

                          "Don't shoot up"

                          "Don't black out"

                          "Don't go down on bad pussy"

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                          • martin ewen
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 1887

                            #14
                            just write those down on a juggling ball each and when/if he's mastered that you'll increase his juggling ball/infinite wisdom ratio.

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