Is it ethical or even just polite

[Peter Voice]

Firstly, I got an email yesterday announcing the winners from CTW, the photo on top is by the winner, Anton, but if I had not looked elsewhere, I would not know who drew it. The next, and bigger, picture gives no indication of who the artist featured in the photo is. Who is the artist that created that beautiful picture? Neither image has a "Title", let alone a credit.

I'm sure you got the same email.

As to the YouTube video, all the works featured were designed, commissioned and paid for by me and my clients, as were all artists and models. I tried to be very careful but if you think I'm taking undue credit for my some-one else's work, pls point out exactly where and I will remove the piece. Most of the works you, and others, were involved in, were from my point of view, an attempt for all of us to experiment and learn new exciting potentials but they are without doubt my work. Various attitudes make me reluctant to try and put up hundreds of other collaborative works. I'm acutely aware of abuse over my publishing the works I instigated. BTW the Youtube clip is titled "The Art of Peter Voice" but the clip intro is "Chalk Circle's (me again) and Friends" and any-one who follows the link to our site will, as always, find your site on the front page.

YouTube and text can be a difficult relationship and several attemts were made and failed. You also know I've discussed this with Nick and that other solutions are being tried. I don't have cable access and the experiments take time. Should I credit the client, caterer, studio owner, cleaner, paint manufacturer and the guy who laid the floor covering? Every picture on my website credits participating artists and models where appropriate. I'm sorry and saddened that you think that I've short changed you or any-one else.


My birthday is irrelevent to this discussion but it does pose the question of why, at my age, I'd bother to continue to push for our rights when the new wave of artists don't seem to care.

As I said, it's time for me to move on.

[MagiCol]

"all participating artists sign a release which makes it legal for CTW to use their image for promotion. I have additionally asked for a byline on the reproduction of my artworks.. I produce the work as a performance, but I do also claim copyright of the image and create and sell prints of my artwork, so these issues are important to me.. "

A performer can provide a contract that they have drawn up ensuring that they get due credit for their work that is photographed by organisers. Contracts are not a case of an organiser/hirer etc. presenting their contract; it should be a negotiable situation with a rejoinder [if needed] by the performer that the performer has his/her requirements as stated in his/her performer's contract.
If the organisers of an event don't like the performer's contract, then don't perform for them.
All this is open to negotiation by both parties.

I'm amazed at how many competitions newspapers, businesses etc run for photographs of beautiful scenes etc and the reward is that 2 or 3 people win a flash camera [costs the newspaper etc. maybe $10,000 all up] and in return all the photographs entered in the competiton become the property and use of the newspaper etc. I would not give away my best photographs like that! Same goes for TV stations who want watchers to send in free news items/videos, just for the idea that the person gets their name mentioned in relation to what they submitted, if at all.
When I offered a photo of a triple rainbow to a TV station, I had my contract that they would have to agree to in order to use the photo. They didn't contact me, so I assume they didn't like my terms and conditions. I was no worse off than if they had used my photo.