America Stop Apologising

[jester]

Dear America.

Please stop apologising for the results of your recent elections. They were your elections and it is you who has to live with the results.

Stop aplogising for the fact that Iraq is still as shitty and violent as it was 18 months ago. Stop apologising to us that your soldiers are now getting killed there too.

Stop apologising for the fact that the candidate with the tone that was more palateable to the rest of the world didn't win.

Stop pandering to the ignorant idiots that blame US foreign policy for the fact that their lives suck.

Instead of writing insulting anti american messages on juggling newsgroups, the people of the rest of the world should be talking to their governments.

The world is not a very nice place right now and the language used by the Bush administration has made it feel far more dangerous, that is how the Republicans work, they need hostility.


Don't give them what they want, don't allow a seige mentality to set in. Be positive, think forwards and for heavens sake find a decent, popular and credible candidate for the next election.

It is us who should be sorry. Our hostility bolstered the bigotry of the ignorant reds, our stupid condescending emails that accused ordinary people of ignorance were arrogant.

The election is over. There's one in Britain next year, and the Prime Minister will win, because he is a Liberal (and he is a big fan of Bush!). I'm not going to apologise, I'm just going to vote.

[martin ewen]

Um..does that include chestwounds?

"Stop pandering to the ignorant idiots that blame US foreign policy for the fact that their lives suck."

[jester]

Actually Martin, I beleive that if we perpetuate the myth that America rules the world and that nothing can be acheived without their sayso, we empower Bush and his cronies and make the world a more dangerous place.

People suffering from chestwounds are owed an apology from the entire Western world, not just the USA. Britain, NZ and Australia are certainly not on the innocent list, neither are the French or any other sanctomonious democracies.

I'm disappointed, I'd have prefered Kerry, I'm just sick of people ranting on and on and accusing the entire US population of religious bigotry. As a non US citizen I don't expect any of the electorate to apologise for Bush.

I'm not apologising for Blair, I didn't vote for him, but I'm still not apologising, making excuses or ranting.

America has disproportionately far too much power in the arena of world affairs, because the rest of the world fawns in awe at their power. And those that oppose them acknowledge that power and thus empower them further.

The worlds people sending emails saying "We don't like you and what your country stands for." is hardly going to endear the voting population and acheive change.

Some people voted for Bush to spite the rest of the world. What I really meant was.. "Rest of the world, stop shouting at the US voters."

Kerry lost because on the world stage, Bush was condemned by the media abroad, but nobody, and I mean NOBODY outside the US gave the people of the US any good reasons why Kerry would be better... and he wasn't very convincing himself.

[Stephon]

Originally posted by jester
America has disproportionately far too much power in the arena of world affairs, because the rest of the world fawns in awe at their power. And those that oppose them acknowledge that power and thus empower them further.

If the rest of the world should be neither awed nor opposed to US power, what options are they left with?

[Doctor Eric]

Wake up. We're swerving into oncoming traffic.

I believe if we perpetuate the myth that Bush won the election that there will be no stopping full-on "revelations" style armageddon.

And I'm sure that a heartfelt apology will make those widdle chest-wounds all bedder.

I think that our only logical solution at this point for ALL of us to show up on the White House lawn with torches and pitchforks, screaming in unison "Bring out the MONSTER!!!"

Hell, if we do, we can take a head count, and check to see if we really are only a convienient 49% of the population.

What amazes me is that America, the "free-est cuntry in the woild" has been taken over by a dictator, and yet if this had happened in a third world country, we'd have dragged the fucker out and set him on fire in September of 2000. Wonder if those buildings still would have fallen...?

[jester]

Re: Wake up. We're swerving into oncoming traffic.

Simply, treat American Power as it really would be in the grand scheme of things if we didn't suck up to whoever is president at the time.

US is big, but does not outnumber the rest of the world on it's own.

It does not have the worlds largest or most powerful Army. It is not the only trading partner out there.

We should not be in so much awe of the US. We certainly aren't bothered by France or Germany who are Frankly under-rated in terms of their importance in the grand scheme of things.

By the way, the worlds largest and most powerful Army is led by an undemocratic commander in chief who never flexes "her" muscles incase anybody notices just how well armed she is. Guessed who she is yet?

[Stephon]

Re: Re: Wake up. We're swerving into oncoming traffic.

Originally posted by jester
We should not be in so much awe of the US as Stephon would have us beleive.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't say that. I asked a straightforward question without opinion or judgement. I didn't even say I disagreed with you (or agreed with you, for that matter); I just asked for a little clarification.

[jester]

Sorry Stephon. You are right, I was just trying to answer the question.

I have edited that sentence accordingly. To answer your question they should be more relaxed and indifferent. US foreign policy is very very important, but it should not be the be all and end all of it.

If America supports something, the hatred by the opposition is always aimed first and foremost at America and not it's allies.

If America doesn't support something, the resentment is most prounounced against America, not the other nations that don't support it.

[harmonicakev]

but seriously Mr. Jester, don't you find Bush and Cheney and all their neo-con born-again backers just a little scarey? Who will they invade next? Who's rights will they trample on next?
and by the way, the 49 million Americans who voted for Kerry have nothing to apoligize for. and lets not rag on those Ohio voters; how do you know the Republicans didn't steal the election (again)??

[harmonicakev]

they also have nothing to apologize for.

Nader voters, I don't know?

[jester]

Yes I do find Bush Scary. Your point is?

My point is that I am fed up with condescending European White Liberals ranting on and on about how stupid Americans are. And then to compound it, the poor democratic voters are apologising.

I sympathise. I sympathise. You don't have to apologise for being American to me. I don't blame America for all of the worlds evils. I think that there are many many accomplices who could and should be doing more. Britain included. As a Brit, there is no way an American should apologise to me for American actions that my government has endorsed.

I am furious about many things, but I am not furious with the American People. I am Furious with Bush, but not with you.

I am not defending The Republican Party. Does that help?

[Pudding]

We are all in it together. We all read how awful peoples lives were previous to us 'freeing' them duh??
Blair is as much to blame for it all. If America are having to say sorry, then so should we all....

[newyorkstreetdean]

Jester, I agree with you that I, as an American should not have to apologize for the actions of the presidant. However, when I travel abroad I do like to make the distinquishment (is that a real word?) that I don't support him and that not all Americans are how they are depicted or how some believe us to be.
Although you are smart enough to see that a good portion of Americans made the choice to fire Bush (maybe even the majority), not all people are able to see that.