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  • martin ewen
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2000
    • 1887

    #16
    New york times 16 march
    In a surprising and somewhat visually offputting mental pictured way. George Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Rove and the entire republican party including wives and mistresses have issued a statement declaring that until the Israelies and Palestinise are able to have big collective family picnics in the desert, and until the French accept their role as the same breed of poodle that Britian is , they will all collectively refrain from using their tongues whilst kissing. Cheney is said to be particularily inconsolable as his tongue is the only workable protrusion he has left.

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    • Peter Voice
      Moderator
      • Dec 2000
      • 1065

      #17
      Now that Turkey (the country) is less than enthusiastic about the US war plans, I have to wonder if people will be eating "Texas (ie big) Chicken" come thanksgiving.
      It seems that the US is prepared to trash anything in the rush to war.
      Anybody who thinks pouring good french wine down a drain (Washington protest 3/15/03) will further the pursuit of civilisation in this world is seriously misguided.
      I wonder how many see the irony of changing the prefix "French" for "Freedom" in US usage. Maybe the turkey will become the "Bush Chicken"
      Every-one should watch their drawers!
      http://www.chalkcircle.com.au/

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      • scot
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2000
        • 1169

        #18
        I think it was Benjamin Franklin who was dead set on having the turkey be the national bird. A fast possible fact.

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        • scot
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2000
          • 1169

          #19
          Stephon,
          It's "stifled"

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          • jonnyflash
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2000
            • 220

            #20
            These carefully calculated performances are planned and executed with the same finesse and thorouness as any of our shows. The "mighty wurlitzer" whirls on.
            These people are expert crowd psychologists with the limitless resources of the tax dollar. When they say toxic waste is better on breakfast cereal, you better damn well believe it! And whats more.......YOU BETTER LIKE IT!

            I LOVE BIG GEORGE!

            -jonny flash live from the wilderness of sin

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            • jonnyflash
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2000
              • 220

              #21
              previously unknown fact:
              Q how many Japanese commit suicide each day?

              A 600. six hundred. thats not a typo. The preffered methods are now A, B, and C

              A) jump in front of train{train company then sues family for the equivilent of 100 000$US for slowing service.
              B) Get in a car with friends you made a "suicide pact" with{usually over the internet}, and turn on a small portable coal stove to create the neccessary levels of CO2 inside the vehicle.
              C) Hang yourself.

              reporting live from the wilderness of sin,
              this is Jonny Flash. Somebody bring me a coffee.

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              • Guest

                #22
                Originally posted by scot:
                "I think it was Benjamin Franklin who was dead set on having the turkey be the national bird. A fast possible fact."

                Yep, imagine that...good thing too, as the Eagle is a far better symbol for the US. It never attacks anything bigger than itself, and generally feeds on carrion.

                [ 03-17-2003: Message edited by: The Renaissance Man ]</p>

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                • em
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 249

                  #23
                  i don't understand the title but i decided this was the place to express myself.
                  Our ministers are resigning, the TV is drowning in the prospect, should i say, inevitability of a f*@$£ing war.

                  I don't want it...

                  love em

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                  • le pire
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 1113

                    #24
                    Can't you have a "vote of confidence" in Britain to get rid of a PM before his term is up if he is behaving like Blair? You can do this in France & Germany. In fact, Gerhard Schroeder was nearly ousted a few years ago, and Chirac tried to pull a stunt on the French Assemble Nationale (equiv to house of commons, house of representatives) and called their elections early in order to pack the house with more of his conservative friends. It totally back-fired and in came the Socialists!!!

                    As much as I support France & what Chirac is doing, I can't forget that not even two years ago Le Monde would print a new scandel Chirac was involved with practically every week. Chirac has been called the most corrupt president since Mitterand (a guy who collaborated with both the Resistance and Vichy. A real political snake)


                    étienne

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                    • martin ewen
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 1887

                      #25
                      When I'm not dressing up, hiding behind corners and scaring the shit out of people or watching the latest war- porn reality show. I study history
                      Its long but its got some chilling parallels.
                      (Pssst...Its a meme...pass it on.-I got it from slashdot)

                      When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history

                      18 Mar 2003
                      The 70th anniversary wasn't noticed in the United States, and was barely reported in the corporate media. But the Germans remembered well that fateful day seventy years ago - February 27, 1933. They commemorated the anniversary by joining in demonstrations for peace that mobilized citizens all across the world.

                      It started when the government, in the midst of a worldwide economic crisis, received reports of an imminent terrorist attack. A foreign ideologue had launched feeble attacks on a few famous buildings, but the media largely ignored his relatively small efforts. The intelligence services knew, however, that the odds were he would eventually succeed. (Historians are still arguing whether or not rogue elements in the intelligence service helped the terrorist; the most recent research implies they did not.)

                      But the warnings of investigators were ignored at the highest levels, in part because the government was distracted; the man who claimed to be the nation's leader had not been elected by a majority vote and the majority of citizens claimed he had no right to the powers he coveted. He was a simpleton, some said, a cartoon character of a man who saw things in black-and-white terms and didn't have the intellect to understand the subtleties of running a nation in a complex and internationalist world. His coarse use of language - reflecting his political roots in a southernmost state - and his simplistic and often-inflammatory nationalistic rhetoric offended the aristocrats, foreign leaders, and the well-educated elite in the government and media. And, as a young man, he'd joined a secret society with an occult-sounding name and bizarre initiation rituals that involved skulls and human bones.

                      Nonetheless, he knew the terrorist was going to strike (although he didn't know where or when), and he had already considered his response. When an aide brought him word that the nation's most prestigious building was ablaze, he verified it was the terrorist who had struck and then rushed to the scene and called a press conference.

                      "You are now witnessing the beginning of a great epoch in history," he proclaimed, standing in front of the burned-out building, surrounded by national media. "This fire," he said, his voice trembling with emotion, "is the beginning." He used the occasion - "a sign from God," he called it - to declare an all-out war on terrorism and its ideological sponsors, a people, he said, who traced their origins to the Middle East and found motivation for their evil deeds in their religion.

                      Two weeks later, the first detention center for terrorists was built in Oranianberg to hold the first suspected allies of the infamous terrorist. In a national outburst of patriotism, the leader's flag was everywhere, even printed large in newspapers suitable for window display.

                      Within four weeks of the terrorist attack, the nation's now-popular leader had pushed through legislation - in the name of combating terrorism and fighting the philosophy he said spawned it - that suspended constitutional guarantees of free speech, privacy, and habeas corpus. Police could now intercept mail and wiretap phones; suspected terrorists could be imprisoned without specific charges and without access to their lawyers; police could sneak into people's homes without warrants if the cases involved terrorism.

                      To get his patriotic "Decree on the Protection of People and State" passed over the objections of concerned legislators and civil libertarians, he agreed to put a 4-year sunset provision on it: if the national emergency provoked by the terrorist attack was over by then, the freedoms and rights would be returned to the people, and the police agencies would be re-restrained. Legislators would later say they hadn't had time to read the bill before voting on it.

                      Immediately after passage of the anti-terrorism act, his federal police agencies stepped up their program of arresting suspicious persons and holding them without access to lawyers or courts. In the first year only a few hundred were interred, and those who objected were largely ignored by the mainstream press, which was afraid to offend and thus lose access to a leader with such high popularity ratings. Citizens who protested the leader in public - and there were many - quickly found themselves confronting the newly empowered police's batons, gas, and jail cells, or fenced off in protest zones safely out of earshot of the leader's public speeches. (In the meantime, he was taking almost daily lessons in public speaking, learning to control his tonality, gestures, and facial expressions. He became a very competent orator.)

                      Within the first months after that terrorist attack, at the suggestion of a political advisor, he brought a formerly obscure word into common usage. He wanted to stir a "racial pride" among his countrymen, so, instead of referring to the nation by its name, he began to refer to it as "The Homeland," a phrase publicly promoted in the introduction to a 1934 speech recorded in Leni Riefenstahl's famous propaganda movie "Triumph Of The Will." As hoped, people's hearts swelled with pride, and the beginning of an us-versus-them mentality was sewn. Our land was "the" homeland, citizens thought: all others were simply foreign lands. We are the "true people," he suggested, the only ones worthy of our nation's concern; if bombs fall on others, or human rights are violated in other nations and it makes our lives better, it's of little concern to us.

                      Playing on this new nationalism, and exploiting a disagreement with the French over his increasing militarism, he argued that any international body that didn't act first and foremost in the best interest of his own nation was neither relevant nor useful. He thus withdrew his country from the League Of Nations in October, 1933, and then negotiated a separate naval armaments agreement with Anthony Eden of The United Kingdom to create a worldwide military ruling elite.

                      His propaganda minister orchestrated a campaign to ensure the people that he was a deeply religious man and that his motivations were rooted in Christianity. He even proclaimed the need for a revival of the Christian faith across his nation, what he called a "New Christianity." Every man in his rapidly growing army wore a belt buckle that declared "Gott Mit Uns" - God Is With Us - and most of them fervently believed it was true.

                      Within a year of the terrorist attack, the nation's leader determined that the various local police and federal agencies around the nation were lacking the clear communication and overall coordinatedadministration necessary to deal with the terrorist threat facing the nation, particularly those citizens who were of Middle Eastern ancestry and thus probably terrorist and communist sympathizers, and various troublesome "intellectuals" and "liberals." He proposed a single new national agency to protect the security of the homeland, consolidating the actions of dozens of previously independent police, border, and investigative agencies under a single leader.

                      He appointed one of his most trusted associates to be leader of this new agency, the Central Security Office for the homeland, and gave it a role in the government equal to the other major departments.

                      His assistant who dealt with the press noted that, since the terrorist attack, "Radio and press are at out disposal." Those voices questioning the legitimacy of their nation's leader, or raising questions about his checkered past, had by now faded from the public's recollection as his central security office began advertising a program encouraging people to phone in tips about suspicious neighbors. This program was so successful that the names of some of the people "denounced" were soon being broadcast on radio stations. Those denounced often included opposition politicians and celebrities who dared speak out - a favorite target of his regime and the media he now controlled through intimidation and ownership by corporate allies.

                      To consolidate his power, he concluded that government alone wasn't enough. He reached out to industry and forged an alliance, bringing former executives of the nation's largest corporations into high government positions. A flood of government money poured into corporate coffers to fight the war against the Middle Eastern ancestry terrorists lurking within the homeland, and to prepare for wars overseas. He encouraged large corporations friendly to him to acquire media outlets and other industrial concerns across the nation, particularly those previously owned by suspicious people of Middle Eastern ancestry. He built powerful alliances with industry; one corporate ally got the lucrative contract worth millions to build the first large-scale detention center for enemies of the state. Soon more would follow. Industry flourished.

                      But after an interval of peace following the terrorist attack, voices of dissent again arose within and without the government. Students had started an active program opposing him (later known as the White Rose Society), and leaders of nearby nations were speaking out against his bellicose rhetoric. He needed a diversion, something to direct people away from the corporate cronyism being exposed in his own government, questions of his possibly illegitimate rise to power, and the oft-voiced concerns of civil libertarians about the people being held in detention without due process or access to attorneys or family.

                      With his number two man - a master at manipulating the media - he began a campaign to convince the people of the nation that a small,limited war was necessary. Another nation was harboring many of the suspicious Middle Eastern people, and even though its connection with the terrorist who had set afire the nation's most important building was tenuous at best, it held resources their nation badly needed if they were to have room to live and maintain their prosperity. He called a press conference and publicly delivered an ultimatum to the leader of the other nation, provoking an international uproar. He claimed the right to strike preemptively in self-defense, and nations across Europe - at first - denounced him for it, pointing out that it was a doctrine only claimed in the past by nations seeking worldwide empire, like Caesar's Rome or Alexander's Greece.

                      It took a few months, and intense international debate and lobbying with European nations, but, after he personally met with the leader of the United Kingdom, finally a deal was struck. After the military action began, Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain told the nervous British people that giving in to this leader's new first-strike doctrine would bring "peace for our time."

                      Thus Hitler annexed Austria in a lightning move, riding a wave of popular support as leaders so often do in times of war. The Austrian government was unseated and replaced by a new leadership friendly to Germany, and German corporations began to take over Austrian resources.

                      In a speech responding to critics of the invasion, Hitler said, "Certain foreign newspapers have said that we fell on Austria with brutal methods. I can only say; even in death they cannot stop lying. I have in the course of my political struggle won much love from my people, but when I crossed the former frontier [into Austria] there met me such a stream of love as I have never experienced. Not as tyrants have we come, but as liberators."

                      To deal with those who dissented from his policies, at the advice of his politically savvy advisors, he and his handmaidens in the press began a campaign to equate him and his policies with patriotism and the nation itself. National unity was essential, they said, to ensure that the terrorists or their sponsors didn't think they'd succeeded in splitting the nation or weakening its will. In times of war, they said, there could be only "one people, one nation, and one commander-in-chief" ("Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer"), and so his advocates in the media began a nationwide campaign charging that critics of his policies were attacking the nation itself. Those questioning him were labeled "anti-German" or "not good Germans," and it was suggested they were aiding the enemies of the state by failing in the patriotic necessity of supporting the nation's valiant men in uniform. It was one of his most effective ways to stifle dissent and pit wage-earning people (from whom most of the army came) against the "intellectuals and liberals" who were critical of his policies.

                      Nonetheless, once the "small war" annexation of Austria was successfully and quickly completed, and peace returned, voices of opposition were again raised in the Homeland. The almost-daily release of news bulletins about the dangers of terrorist communist cells wasn't enough to rouse the populace and totally suppress dissent. A full-out war was necessary to divert public attention from the growing rumbles within the country about disappearing dissidents; violence against liberals, Jews, and union leaders; and the epidemic of crony capitalism that was producing empires of wealth in the corporate sector but threatening the middle class's way of life.

                      A year later, to the week, Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia; the nation was now fully at war, and all internal dissent was suppressed in the name of national security. It was the end of Germany's first experiment with democracy.

                      As we conclude this review of history, there are a few milestones worth remembering.

                      February 27, 2003, was the 70th anniversary of Dutch terrorist Marinus van der Lubbe's successful firebombing of the German Parliament (Reichstag) building, the terrorist act that catapulted Hitler to legitimacy and reshaped the German constitution. By the time of his successful and brief action to seize Austria, in which almost no German blood was shed, Hitler was the most beloved and popular leader in the history of his nation. Hailed around the world, he was later Time magazine's "Man Of The Year."

                      Most Americans remember his office for the security of the homeland, known as the Reichssicherheitshauptamt and its SchutzStaffel, simply by its most famous agency's initials: the SS.

                      We also remember that the Germans developed a new form of highly violent warfare they named "lightning war" or blitzkrieg, which, while generating devastating civilian losses, also produced a highly desirable "shock and awe" among the nation's leadership according to the authors of the 1996 book "Shock And Awe" published by the National Defense University Press.

                      Reflecting on that time, The American Heritage Dictionary(Houghton Mifflin Company, 1983) left us this definition of the form of government the German democracy had become through Hitler's close alliance with the largest German corporations and his policy of using war as a tool to keep power: fas-cism (fbsh'iz'em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."

                      Today, as we face financial and political crises, it's useful to remember that the ravages of the Great Depression hit Germany and the United States alike. Through the 1930s, however, Hitler and Roosevelt chose very different courses to bring their nations back to power and prosperity.

                      Germany's response was to use government to empower corporations and reward the society's richest individuals, privatize much of the commons, stifle dissent, strip people of constitutional rights, and create an illusion of prosperity through continual and ever-expanding war. America passed minimum wage laws to raise the middle class, enforced anti-trust laws to diminish the power of corporations, increased taxes on corporations and the wealthiest individuals, created Social Security, and became the employer of last resort through programs to build national infrastructure, promote the arts, and replant forests.

                      To the extent that our Constitution is still intact, the choice is again ours.

                      ===

                      Thom Hartmann lived and worked in Germany during the 1980s, and is the author of over a dozen books, including "Unequal Protection" and "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight." This article is copyright by Thom Hartmann,but permission is granted for reprint in print, email, blog, or web media so long as this credit is attached.

                      Thom Hartmann is the #1 progressive radio talk show host in the US and a New York Times bestselling author, including 4 Project Censored awards, of 21 books.


                      [ 03-20-2003: Message edited by: martin ewen ]</p>

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                      • worldwidese
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2000
                        • 510

                        #26
                        Yeah, that's all very true, but- people who wanna change French Fries to Freedom Fries are never gonna take time to read that stuff, and wouldn't see the parallel, if they can read that kind of writing anyway.

                        Plus this time it's bigger at the root. Something like Global Corporate Feudalism is spreading its tentacles and the common serfs don't even realize it. People who have to work three jobs to make ends meet can't step back and look at the big picture. They are already so weighed down by their economic struggles they only have time to watch the porn-reality shows they are being carefully fed by Corporate Media.

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                        • Evan Young
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2001
                          • 1002

                          #27
                          Friend sent me this. it's from this page http://www.iranian.com/Opinion/2003/...nks/index.html


                          Thank you George
                          Thank you for ignoring us

                          By Paulo Coelho
                          March 18, 2003
                          The Iranian

                          Thank you for showing everyone what a danger Saddam Hussein represents. Many of us might otherwise have forgotten that he used chemical weapons against his own people, against the Kurds and against the Iranians. Hussein is a bloodthirsty dictator and one of the clearest expressions of evil in today's world.

                          But this is not my only reason for thanking you. During the first two months of 2003, you have shown the world a great many other important things and, therefore, deserve my gratitude. So, remembering a poem I learned as a child, I want to say thank you.

                          Thank you for showing everyone that the Turkish people and their parliament are not for sale, not even for 26 billion dollars.

                          Thank you for revealing to the world the gulf that exists between the decisions made by those in power and the wishes of the people.

                          Thank you for making it clear that neither José María Aznar nor Tony Blair give the slightest weight to or show the slightest respect for the votes they received. Aznar is perfectly capable of ignoring the fact that 90% of Spaniards are against the war, and Blair is unmoved by the largest public demonstration to take place in England in the last thirty years.

                          Thank you for making it necessary for Tony Blair to go to the British parliament with a fabricated dossier written by a student ten years ago, and present this as 'damning evidence collected by the British Secret Service'.

                          Thank you for allowing Colin Powell to make a complete fool of himself by showing the UN Security Council photos which, one week later, were publicly challenged by Hans Blix, the chief weapons inspector in Iraq.

                          Thank you for adopting your current position and thus ensuring that, at the plenary session, the French foreign minister, Dominique de Villepin's anti-war speech was greeted with applause - something, as far as I know, that has only happened once before in the history of the UN, following a speech by Nelson Mandela.

                          Thank you too, because, after all your efforts to promote war, the normally divided Arab nations were, for the first time, at their meeting in Cairo during the last week in February, unanimous in their condemnation of any invasion.

                          Thank you for your rhetoric stating that 'the UN now has a chance to demonstrate its relevance', a statement which made even the most reluctant countries take up a position opposing any attack on Iraq.

                          Thank you for your foreign policy which provoked the British foreign secretary, Jack Straw, into declaring that in the 21st century, 'a war can have a moral justification', thus causing him to lose all credibility.

                          Thank you for trying to divide a Europe that is currently struggling for unification; this was a warning that will not go unheeded.

                          Thank you for having achieved something that very few have so far managed to do in this century: the bringing together of millions of people on all continents to fight for the same idea, even though that idea is opposed to yours.

                          Thank you for making us feel once more that though our words may not be heard, they are at least spoken - this will make us stronger in the future.

                          Thank you for ignoring us, for marginalising all those who oppose your decision, because the future of the Earth belongs to the excluded.

                          Thank you, because, without you, we would not have realised our own ability to mobilise. It may serve no purpose this time, but it will doubtless be useful later on.

                          Now that there seems no way of silencing the drums of war, I would like to say, as an ancient European king said to an invader: 'May your morning be a beautiful one, may the sun shine on your soldiers' armour, for in the afternoon, I will defeat you.'

                          Thank you for allowing us - an army of anonymous people filling the streets in an attempt to stop a process that is already underway - to know what it feels like to be powerless and to learn to grapple with that feeling and transform it.

                          So, enjoy your morning and whatever glory it may yet bring you.

                          Thank you for not listening to us and not taking us seriously, but know that we are listening to you and that we will not forget your words.

                          Thank you, great leader George W. Bush.

                          Author

                          Paulo Coelho is one of the most influential authors of our time. Readers from over 150 countries have turned him into a reference author. His books, translated into 56 languages, have not only topped the bestseller lists, but have gone on to become the subject of social and cultural debate. This aricle was first published in opendemocracy.net (March 11, 2003) under the title "Thank you, great leader George W. Bush".

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                          • jonnyflash
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 220

                            #28
                            Great stuff on this post, people.
                            I was watching CNN this week and witnessed a man on a business news program talking about how oil prices will fall after "regime change"(coup detat) in Iraq.
                            Shortly afterwards another man , a billionarre businessman, openly, unabashedly and unashamedly called for the overthrow of the governments of Brazil and Venezuela. 5 years ago, this would have been said in a coded way. I think the monopolar world situation has allowed US imperialism to throw off the mask and lay bare its true nature to the entire 1st world.
                            I guess this indicates that the US regime views 1st world opinion as irrelevant.

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