Land of the Free. Hoo-ah!

[Evan Young]

Have you guys seen the comercial saying that buying drugs may be supporting terrorists? Well, i must admit it may be a little bit true with cocain or heroin, but the vast majority of the narcotics are not run by cartels.
Paying taxes is a much more direct way of supporting terrorists. Sweet dreams. <img src="graemlins/haha.gif" border="0" alt="[ha ha]" />
they are trying to make drugs a terrorist activity. Grrr

[Mark Wessels]

Starpixy, if everyone is guilty as you said then where the hell are they finding all of those innocent people to kill? Also, I'm sure that the heroin user is going to have that needle half way to the vein and then say ah never mind, I don't wanna support terrorism or anything. Fuck it, I'm hungry, sorry if I've been bitter.

mark

[Danny Hustle]

Stephon: I was not making a ‘callback’ to your Canada quote. So please relax your bowels my friend and I apologize for the confusion. I was merely pointing Canada out as a known viable option for the poor to avoid war. I grew up with nary a pot or a window and I knew all kinds of poor folk who found very creative and cheap ways of not going to South East Asia in the early 70’s. Most of them even managed to stay at home in our lovely ghetto. Granted, the hump work in most wars does seem to be a poor man’s sport. Let’s face it, there are just more poor people than rich and powerful in the US. But, if you really do not want to go there are ways around it rich or poor, a lot of ways. Avoiding the war is not only a game only for the rich and powerful.

Evan: Drug money has also been known to be used by the U.S. government to fund interesting setups in South America as well as other places. What’s worse? I say stick with the eggs, just don’t let the man with no eyes catch you eating more than 50.

[Stephon]

[quote]Originally posted by Danny Hustle:
<strong>The double standard you exhibit is hysterical. It is okay to run to Canada to avoid the draft but God forbid your dad should grease the wheels with a couple of bucks to keep you home.
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I was not making a 'callback' to your Canada quote.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ok, my misunderstanding. (hmm, is that just a more socially acceptable way of saying, "my bad"?)

Could you tell me what "double standard" I was exhibiting so that I can address it, if need be?

[StarPixy]

LOL, I was talking about countries as a whole suck. Not individual pple.Not the CHILDREN who were killed during the bombing.They are innocent. And what about pple who have nothing to do with the war? They guy who works at the grocery store? The little old lady who lives by herself? They're innocent people. But when you got whole government groups fighting over stuff, it sucks.It becomes like a mass hysteria, you know? That's when pple suck!

[Evan Young]

http://www.johngaltpress.org/2002-9-11/rave.html

Here is an essay on stupid laws where the government completly misses the point.
There are other good articles on the site.
Just some food for thought.

[Danny Hustle]

[quote]Originally posted by Stephon:
<strong>


Could you tell me what "double standard" I was exhibiting so that I can address it, if need be?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hi Stephon,

You bet.

“I” felt (and I may have misunderstood) that your original message implied that the rich and powerful using their money to keep their kids out of a war was a scummy thing to do. I assumed (see I’m already in trouble) that you didn’t think that ‘poor folk’ were as inclined or as able to avoid the war as the rich. I also got the feeling (oh-oh now I’m mind reading, and I’m not all that good as a simple magician) that people fleeing to Canada in droves or any type of dodge done by said ‘poor folk’ would not offend your sensibility. I leapt to that conclusion (man, I really am stepping in it) because you made clear your feelings that it is the rich and powerful who start the wars.

If my observations, attempts at mind reading, and stacked conclusions, are incorrect I apologize. Not only that, it would make my comments hysterical wouldn’t it.

Oops.

Best,

Dan-

P.S. This is what happens when Miss Cleo goes to Jail and they start paying magicians to cold read over the phone. I'm just kidding, I maybe a tramp but I'm nobody's whore (But, she likes it when I call her nobody).

[le pire]

It IS the rich and powerful who start wars.

The poor go on Jerry Springer.

etienne

[Stephon]

Wow Danny, yeah, you read a lot more in there than I intended. If you look back at the original post, the Canada comment was in response to the arrest of Middle Easterners in the U.S. who were complying with an edict to register with the INS and had nothing to do with war. The thing about the rich and powerful was in response to Evan's post and was simply a comment about this misguided (potential)legislation for madatory military service--I was basically saying that it just ain't gonna work the way this guy thinks it will. Check out the article for the details.

To be more specific:

-I only think it's scummy of the rich and powerful to use their position to keep their children out of war IF those same rich and powerful are the people pushing for the country to go to war.

-I wasn't making ANY comment about the poor OR draft dodging--that's a completely different discussion.

[quote]‘poor folk’ were [not] as inclined or as able to avoid the war as the rich<hr></blockquote>

As far as being as ABLE to avoid going to war, I think that probably is true; a rich person has the option of buying dispensation from service, in one form or another, and continue on with his life. A poor person either has to leave the country or go to jail.

-Although I wasn't intending to voice an opinion that wars are started by the rich and powerful, since you bring it up I guess I would say that, in general, they are; the poor start revolutions.

As for whether a person goes to war or not, I think each individual has to follow his conscience, be he rich or poor.

I relinquish the pulpit.

Cheers.

[ 01-02-2003: Message edited by: Stephon ]</p>

[Danny Hustle]

[quote]Originally posted by Stephon:
<strong>Wow Danny, yeah, you read a lot more in there than I intended. To be more specific:

-I only think it's scummy of the rich and powerful to use their position to keep their children out of war IF those same rich and powerful are the people pushing for the country to go to war.

-I wasn't making ANY comment about the poor OR draft dodging--that's a completely different discussion.



A poor person either has to leave the country or go to jail.


[ 01-02-2003: Message edited by: Stephon ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry about that Stephon. As I was writing my response it donned on me that I was pinning a lot of stuff on your post that you had nothing to do with.

An interesting thing I found out about draft dodging from (no surprise) a draft dodger, is there are a million ways for a poor or average person to avoid the draft and not have to flee the country, go to jail, or maim him/herself. The guy actually told me in his opinion it is much harder for a powerbroker to keep their kid home because they have such a higher profile. Don’t get me wrong, I agree that it has been done (often) but the wheels require much more grease than necessary for a poor or average person, who is next to invisible. It made sense to me once I thought about it.

Looks like I agreed with more of your post than I thought [img]smile.gif[/img] Oops.

Best,

Dan-