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  • jester
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2000
    • 1084

    Now Listen here Dr Peters with your post existentialist, "I may be smart but I am proletariat too" glasses...

    Butterfly wanted an answer...

    The answer to your question Robert is this:

    YES! YES! YES!

    Of course it was worth it.

    Well it was from my point of view cos you make me laugh...

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    • Rachel Peters
      Moderator
      • Nov 2005
      • 1396

      So, running all over the world, the drinking, the sex, the drugs, the drugs, the drugs, the carelessnes, the reckless, the foolishness... it's all worth it for a chuckle?

      I don't think it can be answered that easily.

      (And to prove how "proletariat" I am, I'd like to announce that I had to look it up in the dictionary.)

      -rachel
      Well, maybe I WILL just keep telling myself that.

      www.rachelpeters.com

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      • jester
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2000
        • 1084

        Ah well if it can't be answered that easily then you are an intellectual...

        You are one of the liberal elite intelligentia, although you aren't patronising and you challenge the value of Butterflies lifes work out of compassion.

        I however merely embrace it.. It was funny.

        Mind you, the drugs bit... hmmm. I know too many people that are paying for the drugs...

        Butterfly, it was worth it. No regrets, live on, enjoy the memories and you know as well as I do... You aint finished yet have you?

        So the question isn't "Was it worth it?" The question is "What are you going to do next?"

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        • scot
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2000
          • 1169

          I think nothing is worth it to you, bug.

          I'm good looking, smart, and cool. In the land of the tone deaf the one note man is Prince.

          You don't matter anymore. Really, you never mattered, or you always mattered.

          I have the same advice as I did 4 years ago. You are lying to yourself by thinking this negative stuff is the truth. You can't handle the truth, there's too much of it. You can either tell yourself the poz lies or the neg lies.
          Last edited by scot; May-15-2006, 12:23 PM.

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          • jester
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2000
            • 1084

            Originally posted by scot
            I think nothing is worth it to you, bug.

            I'm good looking, smart, and cool. In the land of the tone deaf the one note man is Prince.
            That explains "Dance" music then.

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            • Rachel Peters
              Moderator
              • Nov 2005
              • 1396

              Originally posted by jester
              Ah well if it can't be answered that easily then you are an intellectual...

              You are one of the liberal elite intelligentia, although you aren't patronising and you challenge the value of Butterflies lifes work out of compassion.

              I wasn't trying to SOUND intellectual or prove myself in any way. I didn't think this had anything to do with me or how I appeared. I wasn't trying to imply that life (Robert's or anyone's) ISN'T worth it. I feel quite the opposite. I also feel that people too often try to "cheer someone up" with a "smile and be happy" platitude that doesn't solve anything, and sometimes just pours salt on the wound.
              I was probably -- in my backwards way -- being too protective of Robert.
              So maybe I should keep my sincerity to private conversations, lest it turns into a contest over who's smarter for their answers. That was never my point.
              forget it.
              Well, maybe I WILL just keep telling myself that.

              www.rachelpeters.com

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              • jester
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2000
                • 1084

                Originally posted by Rachel Peters
                I wasn't trying to SOUND intellectual....
                Ah but you managed it without even trying... That is a feat in itself.

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                • Mr.Taxi Trix
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 1273

                  Moth Rant

                  Its a pretty decent rant, really, and no answers or comments I can think of will neatly answer it, or encapsulate the content.

                  I've crossed over the dreaded 40 mark recently, and am lucky enough to have dabbled in sculpture for a decade, and found an alternative creative outlet, where I am, at least, a well-established beginner. The lure of unexplored territory constantly calls me deeper into that world.

                  Were this not the case, it could be hard for me at this stage to find peace with performing, especially as over the past 15 years, I've been wanting to stay at home to raise my daughter, and thus have become mercenary, and taken any gigs that are nearby, many of which I'd much rather not do.

                  Having said that, even if the performing career was going great, I think I'd have huge questions along the "was it worth it" lines. Worth what? I'd rather not be a high-level wealthy developer, three years into a second, trophy wife 1/3 my age, with a kid downstairs, but he's probably glad he's not a crackpot living in a church.

                  I guess it comes down to were you a source of love, did you give your mate the sugary side of the bun, did you flirt with the unattractive lady just to watch her bemused surprise, that kind of thing.

                  Meanwhile, back to my problems. Can we PLEASE stop wrapping new CDs in that FUCKING 2-foot thick shrink wrap from hell?

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                  • worldwidese
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 510

                    Of Course It Was Worth It!

                    Butterfly- you would never have been happy as an everyday Joe or even a "suit" in a large company,

                    Get real! Anyone who could live by their wits for so many years is
                    way ahead of the game.

                    Anyone who has felt that warm wave of laughter from a crowd of strangers is blessed.

                    Anyone who has had a chance to travel and seen how the other half live, and even traveled on someone else's money, is wiser than the stay at home dorks.

                    Surely it was more fun than the 9 to 5 commute? It certainly gave you more time for the sex and drugs.

                    Just celebrate the fact that you are above the crowd- one who has always taken the road less traveled.

                    Most important- unless you are doing this reminiscing from your deathbed, get off your butt and go out and live the rest of your life! Do the things you regret not having done. Now you have the time to fulfill your dreams, or to teach your skills to others.

                    Write a twisted column in your local newspaper that's sure to create controversy.
                    Become a travel consultant.
                    Grow Venus Fly Traps. Whatever. Stop regretting and start living!

                    Of Course It Was Worth It! Of Course It Was Worth It!

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                    • Rachel Peters
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 1396

                      Yeah, shrink wrap stinks. DVD packaging especially sucks rocks.
                      You get the plastic off, you think you've won, and then you have those high-tech stickers on the bottom, side and top to peal off or cut through or chew on. By the time it's all over, I may as well have just gnawed the entire case off.
                      packaging.... it stinks.
                      Well, maybe I WILL just keep telling myself that.

                      www.rachelpeters.com

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                      • jester
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2000
                        • 1084

                        If condoms were as safe as shrink wrap some of us would never have been born...

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                        • Evan Young
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2001
                          • 1002

                          what the hell is going on here?

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                          • Lee Nelson
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2001
                            • 352

                            fear and loathing

                            the street performer psycho analysis of our collective fears as embodied by Butterfly Man

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                            • Rachel Peters
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 1396

                              What's going on is that everyone's trying to answer a question that only Butterfly can. And now I hate shrink wrap. And stickers.
                              Well, maybe I WILL just keep telling myself that.

                              www.rachelpeters.com

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                              • Rachel Peters
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 1396

                                Re: fear and loathing

                                Originally posted by Lee Nelson
                                the street performer psycho analysis of our collective fears as embodied by Butterfly Man
                                oh. and that too. yes.
                                Well, maybe I WILL just keep telling myself that.

                                www.rachelpeters.com

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