How to end the Republican Party in USA

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  • jester
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2000
    • 1084

    #16
    The difference in death rate between countries with strict gun controls and those without is very significant.

    Death by guns has little to do with crime. The rate of death by gun in USA is more than 1000 times higher than UK. Go figure.


    Guns are stupid and you are stupid to believe otherwise.

    Fact: Children die in USA every year because any idiot is allowed constitutionally to have a gun. You would rather they died than have your right to bears arms tampered with?

    Most crime is minor. If only criminals carried guns in USA you would still cut gun death down by about 80% Go figure.

    Very few countries have liberal gun laws like the United States. It isn't murder that is the issue here, it is manslaughter.

    Could we keep this on topic please. If anybody wants to discuss the gun issue could they start a new thread. This thread was for people with humour.

    I loathe and detest to the utmost, people who are stupid enough to beleive that their right to carry a gun is more important than the lives of all the people who are shot every year by people stupid enough to carry them.

    Is that clear enough. It isn't an anglo american thing, I love Americans. It isn't just an opinion. It is because I love life.

    I've experienced at first hand what happens if people have guns in the house and that was in Britain where guns are scarce. If my loved ones can be that unlucky here, you could probably end up being that unlucky too.


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    • Pokie-Poke
      Member
      • Dec 2000
      • 74

      #17
      What started out as a bad joke has turnd into a bad discution. other than gun spining and wild west shows what dose this have to do with PERFORMING???
      I to have strong opinons on this subject how ever this is not the place for it.
      I would also like to see you back up your stats.
      It is Illagle to desacrate a flag. yes this covers burning it, it also includs letting it tuch the ground!! This is a fedral law not a state law. no you will more likly not go to jail for it.but a fine can be imposed, you are more likly to go to jail for a parking ticket, unless your braking local fire laws.
      as far as guns go...why is it that WashingtonDC va have both the highest murder rate and the strictest gun laws(a kid asked for a balloon gun while I was twisting doun in va. for some reason I did not do it, I think the kid was bing a brat. when a cop came up to me and thanked me. you see the balloon gun would brake va's "silowet law" and he would have to arest me!!! the charge is the same as if I had a gun!!!
      There are more than enough laws one the books try prosicuting and convicting the crimanals first. If you want to take my gun..(I don't own onebut you get the point)...you first, then the cops. then I'll think about it.
      the majority of gun VIOLINCE in the USA is from ILLAGALE guns how do more laws help this? It is Illagale to shot some one. so what difrancs dose it make to take a leagle gun away when it wasent the problem in the first place.

      boy that's a lot of shit from someone who dosent want this topic to continue.

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      • Chance
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2000
        • 518

        #18
        My favorite line for balloon guns is, "Sure I can make one, but there is a 7-day waiting period."

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        • Pokie-Poke
          Member
          • Dec 2000
          • 74

          #19
          I love it

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          • jester
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2000
            • 1084

            #20
            Okay I give up. Everybody who wants to drive a motor car should be able to do so without passing any form of test.

            Anybody who wants to practice medicine or fly a jumbo jet should be able to do so. And any dim wit who believes that by carrying a hand gun he can help make the world a better place can fight to the death to defend my right to call him a moron if he wants.

            I have my opinion and I'm glad it upsets the stupid.

            Sigh!

            Okay you can't go to jail for burning the flag. Whoopee doo.

            What kind of countries have leaders who insist on wearing military clothing whenever they appear in public. Countries with dubious democratic processes normally. Places like Iraq, Libya, er.. The USA?

            Heh Heh.

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            • Keith Eveslage
              Member
              • Dec 2000
              • 18

              #21
              "Seven days? Doohhh, but I'm Mad NOW!" --Homer Simpson.

              "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is only the second half of the second amendment. The oft ignored first half of the sentence reads: "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state..."

              A regulation is not an infrinegment.

              Are Montana's "Freemen" a militia? Are they well-regulated? Depends upon who you ask.

              What about Columbine's "Trench-coat Mafia?"
              absolutely not.

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              • Vantage
                Member
                • Dec 2000
                • 76

                #22
                "And any dim wit who believes that by carrying a hand gun he can help make the world a better place can fight to the death to defend my right to call him a moron if he wants."

                Statisticaly, children who have LEGAL ownership of guns are 1% less likley to be involved in gun related accidents than those that hove NO access to guns. They are 20% less likley than children who have obtained illegal ownership of a gun.
                Those with access to guns also 10% less likely than those without access to guns and 60% less likely than those with access to illegal guns.


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                James Ashton
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                • young raoul
                  Member
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 66

                  #23
                  Everybody who wants can drive a motor car?!
                  Wonderful! I'm off to pick up Ratty!

                  Toad of Toad Hall

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                  • Vantage
                    Member
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 76

                    #24
                    Yes, But can you drive more than one motor car at once???
                    Thats the trick.
                    I myself can drive 4. Plus juggle 5 clubs and fart fire. All at the same time.

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                    • jester
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 1084

                      #25
                      statisticly children in countries like Britain are 1,000 (one thousand) times less likely to be involved in gun accidents than children who live in the united states.

                      Vantage you are talking utter crap.

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                      • Vantage
                        Member
                        • Dec 2000
                        • 76

                        #26
                        Yes well,
                        Thats your opinion, and as I said before you are entitled to it.
                        I just quote published facts. I didn't do the studies. Some company in Canada did and it was then backed up by another organization that is based in the mid west. Complain to them if there studies disagree with you. I agree with them. Thats my opinion.
                        I try not to utter crap. It tastes nasty.

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                        • jester
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2000
                          • 1084

                          #27
                          It's not just an opinion, it's a fact.

                          Let me run it by you once again as you seem to have missed the point:

                          Children in countries where there is very strict gun control (such as UK) are 1,000 times less likely to be involved in a gun accident than children who live in countries with liberal gun laws (such as the US).

                          The figures vary from year to year as a mere one of two isolated incidents in this country can make a significant impression on them.

                          Your statistics apply only in a country with liberal gun laws.

                          It is also a proven fact that if you took all of the guns off ordinary citzens but only allowed criminals and policepeople to carry them there would be significantly less injury and death by gun.

                          I worry about crime here in the UK, I have been victim to burglury and innocent bystander of an arson attack but the most significant cost to my personal safety and well being had nothing to do with criminals. Some idiot left a shotgun in the house of a dear friend who was depressed.

                          My friend often suffered short bouts of depression but in general her quality of life was very good. Sadly she didn't see it like that when she was depressed.

                          She took over 11 hours to die of her self inflicted wounds to the head. I stood with her children watching them wait for the inevitable.

                          Her depressions began when a friend of hers let off a shotgun through her kitchen window twenty years previously. This hospitalised and mutilated several members of her family.

                          Her friend was not a criminal. He should never have been allowed to have a gun.

                          Ironicly her brother in law loves guns. He was a member of a notorious gun club, from which Micheal Ryan deluded himself he was Rambo - and went around the town of Hungerford killing many people in the 1980's.

                          Her brother in law would enjoy wearing his pistol on his belt to and from the gun club, and would strut like a cowboy to and from his car with his hand openly hovering above the holster so he could pretend he was Chuck Norris.

                          He would stop at several filling stations to show off to and from the gun club.

                          He is no longer allowed to do this under British Law.

                          I feel rather good about that.

                          As the son of an accomplished serviceman I have seen, fired and learned about many guns of many sizes. I have spoken to many people who have used them in practice and on the battlefeild. I know that guns belong in the armoury ready to defend the free world. Not on hips of misguided people.

                          You are not misguided. You are trying to find facts to support your beleifs but will probably never change your beleifs no matter how many facts or figures point to the fact that you shouldn't really be allowed to carry a gun.

                          If I thought carrying a gun would make the world a better place I would carry one.

                          I do like the idea of you owning a gun, storing it in a licensed armoury and practicing your sport on those premises on a regular basis.

                          But the idea of you being allowed to walk around in public with your gun is prepostorous. The idea of my being allowed to walk around with a gun is dumb.

                          Shit happens.

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                          • jester
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2000
                            • 1084

                            #28
                            Hi.

                            I am your neighbour and my name is George. One of my photographers just fell into your garden and has accidently killed one of your family. We are getting a bit impatient with you because you won't let him out and you won't return the weapon.

                            I hope you don't expect an apology.

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                            • scot
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2000
                              • 1169

                              #29
                              You say you want to know how to end the Republican party and I say, "y?"

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                              The Lonnie Anderson of juggling,
                              Scot Nery

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