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  • Schuyler
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 186

    Now with make up! (Me again)

    Right, I have MORE questions. It will NEVER end.

    So I love face paint. Oh yes I do, but I've been having some problems and was wondering if anybody might help steer me in the right direction. I'll start with what I do and know.

    I start by shaving, then wash my face before applying greasepaint. I have a tub of clown white by Mehron that I use, I just apply it with my fingers. After that I put baby powder on an old sock and powder my face up a lot. Then I brush the excess powder off with a soft makeup brush. After that I have two options, I either apply black greasepaint with a crayon type stick if I'm just doing black on white or I use makeup brushes and cream based paints. The black grease stick is also by Mehron and my creams are very substandard (halloween paints that are now a year old. I imagine that has something to do with the problems that follow)

    Right. So my problems. First off is the white base. I notice when watching videos of people (which is almost like research) that most seem to use make up sponges to apply the paint. The clown white I have is VERY thick and won't apply with a sponge. It doesn't stick to the sponge so I get a very small amount that then won't stick to my face. Also once I powder my face I notice that the paint seems very flakey. It photographs fine and looks alright at a distance but up close it's almost fuzzy looking.

    The second problem is applying another colour. The black grease stick worked for a while but increasingly I notice that it just smudges grey, and when I stop painting the black stick is now white and needs to be cleaned with a bit of tissue paper. I can't really colour with brushes at all (although this again might be the paints I'm using) due to the same problem, they won't rub off on the white base but the base will sure rub off on them. If I use any less baby powder then my white base remains too wet to touch much less paint over.

    The process I use was arrived at slowly and in stages (I loved the discovery of covering the greasepaint with baby powder!) and I realize is flawed but I'm having problems finding specific instructions for clown style face paint. I don't know if the problem is the brand of grease or what but putting on a face is a serious problem. Is there anything obvious I'm doing wrong?
  • Steven Ragatz
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2001
    • 493

    #2
    Try doing all of your grease paint colors BEFORE you powder. Once the powder goes on, grease paint doesn't work very well. Then, after the foundation colors, you can do any detail with pressed powders, pencils or water based makeup. Use a fixer spray after everything is done to really lock in the color and help protect against sweat.

    If you are doing a white face, look into buying a 'super white' powder rather than using over the counter baby powder. The super white will enhance the white, cream base and really make it smooth and very bright.

    Steven Ragatz

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    • martin ewen
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2000
      • 1887

      #3
      I use a pad for applying whiteface, a clean pad is harder but after it gets broken in with a bit of use it's better, I pat it on rather than smear it, more even application.

      Some 20 year pluses still prefer finger application though.

      I use babypowder, it's supposed to be bad for you, [which suits me] corn starch I've heard about but stevens 'superwhite' sounds like something I'd try.

      i use the same pad for years, if I see mould on it I change it.

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      • jeep caillouet
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 752

        #4
        When I do my clown face I prefer water base white and colors,that is if there is no sweating and it's not to hot. I just use a powder puff to apply the power.I seem to get a lot cleaner lines using the water base.I also use a makeup sponge to apply the clown white.

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        • jeep caillouet
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 752

          #5
          P.S.

          I also use antiperspirant spray first. That will stop the face from sweating.

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          • Stretch
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2001
            • 611

            #6
            More tips

            Fill your sink with hot water, and drop your make up in the water to warm up. Warm make up is much easier to apply. Goes on smoother.

            Don't use corn starch under any circumstances. Use baby powder (talcum) or special purpose make up powder.

            Use a cotton swab , aka "q-tip" to delete the white where you want the black or red to go.

            Try ProFace brand , Ben Nye, and other brands. Some work better than others, depends on your skin, and in some cases, even your diet.

            Try keeping your "crayon stick" or pencil in the freezer until ready to use. Much nicer, more control, makes a finer line.

            Some folks use eye liner or mascara for their black.

            After, that is AFTER, you powder, you can use a red or black Sharpie marker over the powder. Makes for brilliant colors, and will come off with the grease paint.

            You can use a dry rougue, or cake powder for you red with good effect.

            A good costume shop that sells makeup should be able to offer you tips.

            Proface makes a good liquid anti perspirant to use under your make up.

            Good luck!

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            • ElectricBlue
              Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 36

              #7
              Yup Take a look at getting some of the Ben Nye stuff it is amazing.

              Also it is worth using some kind of barrier cream or light moisturize before applying the paint. This acts as a kind of primer and will help the paint go on evenly and not flake as much.

              As far as powder setting goes you can get translucent powder from most cosmetics stores and this has the advantage of working well over all colours and adding luminosity under stage lights. Also you will get best results if you find a really good quality fluffy powder brush. This will help keep the powder going on evenly.

              Also if you are going to be working hard Ben Nye offers a spray on finishing spray to help the paint not rub off on any thing.

              Good luck

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              • ElectricBlue
                Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 36

                #8
                Oh Yeah and every thing will go on 100 times better if you wash your face well with an oil free cleanser before doing any thing. Doesn't have to be any thing fancy just a cream or gel clenser from a pharmacy or you can even use the wipes.

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                • Schuyler
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 186

                  #9
                  Thank you everybody for the great advice. I had a chance to try some things out today, and it worked really smoothly. Washing my face before hand seems to have made a difference and I can't believe how much better the white base went on when I'd warmed it up first.

                  Thanks again to everybody who posted.

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