Flame retardant treatment for costumes:

[mjsaab]

Does any one know of a supplier of a quality flame retardant treatment for costumes? Also, if any one has experience or feedback on the topic I would appreciate it.

Dirt
"Captain Wacko Neon Danger Man"

[Doctor Eric]

Michael, aren't you still working with, or in close vicinity to, the Bindlestiffs? Ask them, because Rocket Johnny used to do an act with them where his pants 'accidentally' caught on fire, plus, he's the authority on all that stuff, get in contact with him.

[Stretch]

I'm pretty sure that New York has regulations for fireproofing - resistance actually- uphostered furniture and the like.
Check the yello pages for uphostered cleaning contractors, and cleaning contractor supply houses. Tell them you've got some drapes or curtains for a trade show booth.

Be sure and test it . Repeatedly! and frequently.

Also, I remember reading in Forbes mag about a new fireproof fabric. The guy in Ringling uses it. 100 times better stuff than Nomax

Leather and wool soaked in water are your next best bet. And it is a bet, a gamble, a risk. Please be careful.

[Chance]

treatment, says you

Mentioning fire treatment (as oppossed to flame retardant material) gave me a real blast from my past, where once upon a time I sold this very thing in large quantities.

We sold it to construction companies building new homes, where it was to be sprayed on bare wood beams and so on, and had a wonderful reputation for keeping fire from spreading.

Basically, it was nothing but a highly concentrated saline solution. In other words, try giving your clothes a salt bath, without the rinse cycle.

"Sure, you can always pay more -- but why?"

[Stretch]

fire proof fabric

Here is the link to the Forbes article.

http://www.forbes.com/global/2003/1222/066.html

"In the never-ending quest for a material impervious to fire, a small Utah firm aims to turn up the heat on mighty DuPont.

snip

"We are not aware of any fabric that has the same protection against flame and heat. This is an entirely different approach to the problem,"says Thatcher, chief executive of Chapman Innovations, a six-employee startup in Salt Lake City, Utah."

The article continues:

"hatcher claims CarbonX outperforms everything, even the market-leading fire-resistant fabric Nomex. The problem is that Nomex is already everywhere:racing suits, oven mitts, firefighters' clothing, even the upholstery in airplanes. And Nomex is made by DuPont, the chemical giant, which introduced the fabric 40 years ago.

Thatcher figures he can compete with a multibillion-dollar behemoth with some guerrilla marketingromoting high-profile customers who have already sought out the product. Larry Dixon, a two-time national champion drag racer, won't climb into his 8,000hp dragster unless he's clad in CarbonX. Thatcher got him to wear the CarbonX logo on his sleeve. Brian Miser, who sets himself on fire and is catapulted out of a cannon every night for the Ringling Bros. and Barnum &Bailey Circus, is another fan: "The Nomex suit only lasted one jump. I couldn't wear it again. The CarbonX suits last 100 jumps."

CarbonX's secret lies in a fiber called oxidized polyacrylonitrile, or O-PAN, essentially a partially baked strand of acrylic material often used in aircraft brakes. O-PAN fibers get charred in a two-step cooking process at nearly 400 degrees Fahrenheit. When exposed to high heat again O-PANfibers continue to char from the outside in. They also expand well beyond original size, crowding out the oxygen needed to sustain a fire. So CarbonX won't burst into flames, even after being exposed to a torch for two minutes. Eventually the whole fiber turns to carbon and becomes useless, but by that time, presumably, the wearer has gotten to safety. "

[dave walbridge]

flame on!

Theatrical supply houses ( the kind that sell lights n stuff) should have spray on fire-proofing for curtians/ fabric. Ask around.

[The Amazing Beaumanz]

what does ray wold use ????

[Butterfly Man]

User ... or abuser

My guess is heroin ...