Charleston, Birmingham, Knox and Savan

[JoeJoe]

Originally posted by rsummer27
Charleston requires a permit, it costs about a grand. I use to do well standing on the beaches, but that's illegal now also.

It sounds like they are discouraging you from busking with a "special use permit" from the DC Dept of Parks and Rec, which costs around a grand. The Myrtle Beach police tried the same crap on me.

I doubt busking really requires a "special use" permit, that would be if you wanted to hold a festival or something - a busker shouldn't need all of that.

There were some visiting magicians from Charleston at my pitch not long ago, they said Charleston was not a busker friendly place - you would need to fight for your rights there it sounded like to me.

JoeJoe

[Glenn Orange]

Geezz.....

Originally posted by rsummer27
Charleston requires a permit, it costs about a grand. I use to do well standing on the beaches, but that's illegal now also.


I really wish people would stop quoting this nonsense. The permit is $28. That's TWENTY-EIGHT dollars, not a grand.

"QUOTED"
There were some visiting magicians from Charleston at my pitch not long ago, they said Charleston was not a busker friendly place - you would need to fight for your rights there it sounded like to me.

I have been busking here for a long time and Charleston is a VERY busker-friendly town. No one needs to "fight for their rights". The police tend to not really check wether or not you have a permit, and the local Office of Cultural Affairs wholeheartedly supports what we do.

I have found that usually when someone rates a place as "busker-unfriendly", that really means they didn't make any money. Personally, I do just fine financially.

Glenn Orange
Proud to Busk in Charleston, SC

[circusboy90210]

still too much

freedom of speech is "free" not ability to pay for permission, the very fact that you have to pay even a penny means' it's not a right but something you are asking permission for.check the constitution out man it's the #1 right we have in this country. the ability to express yourself.

[Glenn Orange]

Freedom of speech, man

QUOTED
freedom of speech is "free" not ability to pay for permission, the very fact that you have to pay even a penny means' it's not a right but something you are asking permission for.check the constitution out man it's the #1 right we have in this country. the ability to express yourself.

But you aren't performing for "free", are you? No, you want money. If you want to go out on the street and perform for the sake of expressing yourself, THAT'S freedom of speech. You wanna start capitalizing on it, then it's commerce.

[circusboy90210]

not so....

there are two basic tenements .... one street artist vs. city of new york selling art is first ammendment speech art does not live in a vacuum.......second congress has allready established that no laws shall be made that interfere with commerce.... so either way if it is or isn't you are protected. I'm on your side remember????

[Glenn Orange]

Re: not so....

Originally posted by circusboy90210
there are two basic tenements .... one street artist vs. city of new york selling art is first ammendment speech art does not live in a vacuum.......second congress has allready established that no laws shall be made that interfere with commerce.... so either way if it is or isn't you are protected. I'm on your side remember????

I can barely understand what your saying. Personally, I do not feel like a victinm just because my community wants me to have a permit to do what I do.

[circusboy90210]

ok let me reiterate

first ammendment does not say ability to pay to ask for permission, the permit is a way to tell you no if they whant to, and if you do consider it a business the constitution also say's that there shall be no laws made interferring with commerce. your rights are nothing to take lightly man. hundreds of thousands of people died to protect those rights. I do not take this lightly especially since it's my livelyhood that's at stake. food on my table,clothes on my back, and a roof over my headetc.... and it's not your community that ask's you to do this it's a few people in power .....

[Glenn Orange]

Re: ok let me reiterate

Originally posted by circusboy90210
first ammendment does not say ability to pay to ask for permission, the permit is a way to tell you no if they whant to, and if you do consider it a business the constitution also say's that there shall be no laws made interferring with commerce. your rights are nothing to take lightly man.



hundreds of thousands of people died to protect those rights.

headetc.... and it's not your community that ask's you to do this it's a few people in power .....

May I suggest that before you speak about the constitution you may wish to perhaps READ IT!!?!??
The constitution says "CONGRESS shall make no laws"....
I have not been talking about federal laws. I am talking about state, city, and county laws.
In EVERY state and city, if you wanna open up a shop FOR PROFIT, you need to comply with certain laws.


No one died to protect your right to operate a tax-free business, nor did anyone die to protect your belief taht you have a right to collect revenue outside of ordinance and zoning laws.



I would say you know about as much about my community as you do constitutional law.

[circusboy90210]

ok ...

this is not supposed to be a place to fight... but rather a place to exchange ideas and support eachother. the states county's and cities are supposed to support the constitution not eat away at it. and yes individuals are not supposed to pay taxes on their personal income and no government is not supposed to interfere with the running of commerce on a local basis. I have been performing and selling stuff all of my life and more than likely have even been to your commmunity or close to it several times. now the reality of the fact is just because it's so does not make it correct or even right. anyone should be able to sell anything to anyone anywhere , this is a free market economy , key word there "FREE". Just my $50 (two cents) worth. angel p.s. people did die for exactly these rights.