NEW YORK -NEW YORK

[gazzo osborne]

rules there are no rules
but from what i hear bike boy has a 12"inch but he dont use it has a rule..... so run LDR

[DEBBIE ROBINSON]

QUOTE : Gazzo
"Rules??? There are no rules!!!! Keep in mind- you can fuck everybody in life-except 6 people-'cause you'll need people to carry your casket!!!...."

Or in your case 12
Lay off the pies whale man.
Order some sushi.

[Triona]

Excuse me your greatness... I have a lot of experience, from the most important side of the street. The person putting money in your hat!!! I've been to Washington Square and I've seen the acts. I've seen some really good ones, like Tic n Tac and Master Lee, and I've seen some really bad ones. When I originally posted to this thread it was to let you know the current situation in NYC. My roommate was a street performer there for better than ten years, and we still go back from time to time, but the permit situation kind of nixes his juggling show. There's no way in hell I'm going to let him risk a thousand dollars worth of props for a show that could have them and it's hat confiscated. I didn't want to see you get busted and lose your props. Sorry I tried to look out for you. I'm glad you did well and nothing bad happened. Forwarned is for armed though.

[quote]Originally posted by LUCKY diamond RICH:
<strong>I only really respect people that have some experience in what they are talking about!</strong><hr></blockquote>

[Triona]

Gazzo, I thought I was getting another attitude like LDR's again. I only tried to relate what I knew about the current situation in NYC. I'm usually up there at least once a month (more often in the summer). I wondered about this Peter Gross person, I've never seen him, or at least don't think I have...

Anyway, I like the bit about the six... More people should remember it.

[ALAKAZAM]

Gazzo,shhh?don't tell the people i was making hats that small it's embarrasing.
AL [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

[scot]

I believe any decent act will do well in Washington Square Park.

Adultness and uniqueness are not qualities that really matter that much. eg- Tic & Tac are not that unique and Hector (the swordsman of WSP) aims his show at attracting 8yr old women.

I could tell it was a joke off the bat. I couldn't imagine Peter Gross ever did well there without a kilo. I'm sure Gazzo was there still trying to prove his putridity and making a few bucks.

[LUCKY DIAMOND RICH]

Gazzo,
it is not long Old Timer,so I will be one of the 6!
But remember one man can not carry it!

Oh,I have seen your show!Going through the MOTIONS is a form of retirement,anyway!

You can walk trough your life and shows mate,but not me!

Something for Nick Nickalos to aspire to anyway!

As for Bike Boy,he has been ripping off peoples shit for years!
eg.he even started getting heavily tattooed for a while,work that out!

No threat to me,mate!


LDR

[gazzo osborne]

LDR try 8oz not 20,.... and.......

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[Irina]

South Street Seaport is getting more and more corporate every year - they always had schedules for performers, but nobody gave a damn, but now they really start to check everybody, especially at the Pier 17 entrance...The business is down everywhere - you can feel the decline in tourism. Other pitches are - Battery Park, where folks board the ferry to the Statue of Liberty, front steps of Metropolitan Museum, Betheda Fountain in Central Park (good for big shows - it's a huge open space). There are a lot of street fairs, some of them are crashable, some are not. Usually if it's organized by a production Co, like Mardi Gras productions etc - they are no good for buskers, as they try to sell every bit of space, but local church/national community festivals are very busker-friendly and you can always get permission to work, sometimes they ask for a donation to the church or non-profit... Good site to find local festivals in NYC and other touristy places is www.carnaval.com

[Triona]

[quote]Originally posted by Irina:
<strong>front steps of Metropolitan Museum, Betheda Fountain in Central Park (good for big shows - it's a huge open space). </strong><hr></blockquote>

Either of these places will at best get you run at worst get you arrested (especially in front of the museum). The artists that used to sit out there have been routinely getting arrested and all of their works confiscated and sold at police auction. There's an artist from the Village Voice (don't recall his name) that has been arrested over 100 times in that location. He was on a major rant about Guiliani for years, he used to draw cartoons with Rudy with a Hitler mustache.

There are only three approved areas for street performing in Central Park and you must have a special events permit (this is right from the Parks Department). Good luck in getting the permit. They took my non-refundable $25 processing fee back in March and still haven't approved or rejected my application which was for the second and third weekend in June. I have to contact the Central Park director again [img]mad.gif[/img]

[quote]<strong>There are a lot of street fairs, some of them are crashable, some are not. Usually if it's organized by a production Co, like Mardi Gras productions etc - they are no good for buskers, as they try to sell every bit of space, but local church/national community festivals are very busker-friendly and you can always get permission to work, sometimes they ask for a donation to the church or non-profit... Good site to find local festivals in NYC and other touristy places is www.carnaval.com</strong><hr></blockquote>

The local fairs are sometimes cool, but just about anything going on on 6th Avenue is a waste. They're all run by some company who are the most miserable people I have ever talked to. If you want to pay them $200+ for a space, great, otherwise they tell you to f**k off.

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[martin ewen]

This interests me.
I don't want to get into discussions re the worth of Performance/service/product combo's.
( I could see how authorities might immediately stomp on people producing painted faces/balloons/work on canvas or pavement; simply because they see tangible business taking place)
Instead I'd like to ask when the last performer got arrested at the met.
I worked there last year and used to get in and out pretty quick.
I had planned on returning.
I could also understand how shouting, manipulating, high impact acts could be too much for the place.
So maybe not the last performer moved on rather the last silent one??
Anybody??
It did seem pretty quiet, i sort of felt i was getting away with something I shouldn't have been doing.
Do you think it would help if i waved a wee american flag?
(Its my newest prop-I love it-Its really funny)

[Triona]

[quote]Originally posted by martin ewen:
<strong>This interests me.
Instead I'd like to ask when the last performer got arrested at the met.
I worked there last year and used to get in and out pretty quick.
I had planned on returning.
I could also understand how shouting, manipulating, high impact acts could be too much for the place.
So maybe not the last performer moved on rather the last silent one??
Anybody??
It did seem pretty quiet, i sort of felt i was getting away with something I shouldn't have been doing.
Do you think it would help if i waved a wee american flag?
(Its my newest prop-I love it-Its really funny)</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's my understanding from my partner that the Met has pretty much been off-limits to regular circle shows for years. Now he does have a rather loud, flashy act, he's a juggler after all, so that may be the reason.

I doubt the flag waving would help, Martin. New York is still getting over 9/11 and while it's business as usual for the most part, there's still a odd feeling.

The other reason you might have gotten away with it was the parks guys might have thought you were hired by the museum. I'm guessing you were on your stilts, so they probably figured you had to have been hired because who would be crazy enough to do an illegal street show on 9-foot stilts! Little did they know.... [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

[Doctor Eric]

I'd like to open this thread back up, as I'm planning on being in NY real soon, and it seems like things have been changing on a daily basis there. What is it like now? Is there any where that you CAN use fire? My friend says that a lot of college kids mess around with fire in union square, so why not a performer?

[Miss Banana]

Ummm.... well, Clarke and I got our equipment confiscated by parks enforcement plus clarke was issued with a couple of summonses and fines in November 2002 in the fountain.

Definitely NO FIRE!!!! Definitely NO AMPLIFICATION!!!

Beware new york enforcement officers. You can still do shows, just be aware of police presence.

As far as the college kids spinning fire goes, I think they run if they spot cops.

[Pyromancer]

Samen in London... Went there little time ago, with the idea of building around an extended fire eating routine, nice and clean, not a single drop of oil on the floor, but absolutely no fire is allowed.
Tried to develop something without fire, but that took more time than I thought it would, to put it mildy. At some point I actually did some fire and got away with it. But maybe I was just lucky...

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