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  • gav
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2003
    • 916

    #16
    it could hurt

    Taxi, rubbing alcohol is way too flamable. The risk of getting it on you and going up in flames is far too great.
    As for the Toronto story, I know the guy who charged that much, and I think it was the right thing to do. It was after all a major motion picture and no matter how good you are, there is always a risk when breathing fire. You'd be mad not to get paid as much as you can for doing it.
    My personal gripe about fire breathers is that if you share a pitch with them and you go on after them, normally the pitch is covered in very slippery excess fuel !! It sucks big time.
    Even the most experienced breathers have been known to do this.

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    • Pyromancer
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2002
      • 248

      #17
      Re: it could hurt

      Originally posted by gav
      Even the most experienced breathers have been known to do this.
      That's why I now always carry an old towel with me, to clean up any spoiled fuel afterwards...

      But I agree with you many fireperformers leave a mess and that sucks!

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      • Evan Young
        Senior Member
        • May 2001
        • 1002

        #18
        Originally posted by Pyromancer


        Call it an obsession, but I didn't even notice nekkid women there, just focused on the video of a man getting burned badly aftere breathing...

        the link didn't work on my mac either. it must be a compatability thing with safari or somthing. I did like the pics of all the hot modles.
        and pyro, that video of you is killer. I am very impressed!

        ok, I've been known to eat a torch or blow a fire ball from time to time (almost never). I heard that milk helps coat your mouth, stomach, throat and washes oil away. myth or fact?
        I found the ultra pure lamp oil at craft hoby shops that sell stuff most art stores should sell and more. Target or wall mart might have it.

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        • eurobuskers
          Member
          • Mar 2005
          • 57

          #19
          no comment

          Im originally from Ireland,
          no comment.

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          • Stephon
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2001
            • 651

            #20
            Lynneski--some time back I did a web search to find out what types of damage are caused by ingesting/absorbing fuel. I don't recall the specifics (it was quite some time back) but I do remember that risks of organ and mouth tissue damage are legit, and worth considering by anyone who wants to eat or blow fire for any length of time.

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            • Mr.Taxi Trix
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2000
              • 1273

              #21
              Thanks, Gav. I'll pass the word back to the student on the rubbing alcohol.

              Evan, I find that milk certainly helps my mindset, and makes the shit slime taste a lot less noticeable. Good eye out, by the way, I'll do an ultra pure search next biggish store I'm in.

              What about charcoal pills? I used to take them beforehand, at the advice of a fire breather I knew, and they also helped mentally, at least. His take was that they absorbed any fuel that made it into your system, and passed it out of you.

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              • theincrediblelarry
                Member
                • Jan 2002
                • 66

                #22
                Taxi, that totally can't be true (charcoal bit)- your mouth absorbs fuel instantly. Aclohol as well as many other chemicals, such as ambesol, and those of a halloucinogenic nature, are ingested through the tounge, gums etc. No matter what, you ingest fuel. I use coleman as well but don't perform breathing often.

                Whatever

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                • gav
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 916

                  #23
                  charcoal

                  Yeah, I think the charcoal is only goin to help with anything that makes it to your gut. Charcoal absorbs all kinds of impurities and is used in many filtration devices. Milk I think does provide some kind of protective lining if you drink it before hand, and I used to find that the only thing that got rid of the oily feeling was drinking coke afterwards. That shit will clean anything !!

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                  • Lynneski
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 370

                    #24
                    Thanks, Stephon. It makes sense, yes, that kero and similar things that one is not supposed to ingest can cause damage if ingested. Cirrhosis (sp?) is supposed to be the number one result of long-term fuel abuse. I've heard tales of sideshow guys of days past who've expired, purportedly, of fuel poisoning. I guess I was looking for more modern first-hand evidence.

                    I seem to vaguely recall a long ago similar thread wherein Raoul supported lycodium powder as the cleanest-burning fuel, but I may be misremembering, or I'm on the crack. Ragu, you remember dis?

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                    • gav
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 916

                      #25
                      burning powders

                      Lycopodium powder is safe to use because you don't actually put it in your mouth. You have it in a tube that you hold in your hand and then blow through. You can also just use fine flour, or even icing sugar I think. The thing is that the effect is no where near as spectacular. Any kind of a powder that has a high cellulose content is flammable.

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                      • Pyromancer
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 248

                        #26
                        Lycopodium is safer, but the flames aren't as beautifull as the ones made with liquid fuels.

                        And Lynneske, first hand evidence would be interesting indeed. Because we all just seem to hear stories...

                        If I go for a full medical check up one day, I'll let you know.

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                        • jester
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2000
                          • 1084

                          #27
                          I know a performer who died of liver failure at 32 years of age. It's difficult to comment because he had suffered from a liver illness as a child.

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                          • gav
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 916

                            #28
                            I know a guy

                            I know a guy that started loosing hair, anyone who uses these fuels in this way will end up with no hair !! I'll hazard a guess that some of the most experienced fire breathers have no hair.

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                            • Pyromancer
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 248

                              #29
                              Re: I know a guy

                              Originally posted by gav
                              I know a guy that started loosing hair, anyone who uses these fuels in this way will end up with no hair !! I'll hazard a guess that some of the most experienced fire breathers have no hair.
                              It's just sensible to have no hair when you work a lot with fire. And many, many men loose hair when they grow older. I did. But if someone feels comfortable blaming their hairloss on the fuel they use, it's fine for me.

                              Last edited by Pyromancer; Apr-10-2005, 12:11 PM.

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                              • Lynneski
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2000
                                • 370

                                #30
                                It occurred to me that it would be a great library article, to discuss the various fuels and for what they are best suited - even, perhaps, to go so far as to compile a list of what brand names they go by in various countries. Anyone game?

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