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Go ahead, tell em! once I've got that bull whip out and you, in that thong with the buck in your mouth! Well, I can't give it all away. I'll tell ya this, "Now That's a Show!!!!! P. S. You don't trust me in the open Ocean? -
Hey Lee, haven't seen you sense Boulder a few tears back.Hope things are good with you.I actually saw Tom Morrison doing one of your routines here a couple of years ago .It was pretty much just like I've seen you do it. Oh well...
I really don't remember if you ever saw the dog show that I do in Key West? But I made that show up from scratch,there was no one before me and I don't know of anyone who has ever copied my routine or even the same idea. I've made a living doing it now for about 15 years now, and I do travel around the country and do it,but how many times can one see ''a star is born'' and still stay on top. you know what I mean? It is an award winning show as I won Pet Star on Animal Planet a few years back. SO,I've been working on a new act some 3 years now Took me 2 years to think of it and have been putting it together a little over a year now, it's almost finished, maybe in a couple of months. I have choose not to share this new show with p-net at this time. Maybe when it's finished... I've got about 4 grand in it now and intend to put a few more in it before it's finished. The show in itself is entirely original. Hope you get the chance to see it sometime. I may be old but I'm still out here and I'm still having a good time through entertainment... Come see us sometime I'll take you sailing.
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This sounds like a street performers pension plan. This guy Will Soto sure closed this shop right up.
Its really not surprising that one of the constant themes of the discussion is people ripping of eachothers acts. I think this system must make this one of the most uncreative pitch environments I have ever heard of.
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Well said Gav,
Australia has a rep as being a pretty tough place to perform, but Ive called it home for 14 yrs now, worked on/off the street for the last ~8 yrs, in Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane. And ive gotta say, Its pretty straight up. Theres a LOT of shit-hot acts here, (and you'd think big egos) but to be honest, I've had more trouble on pitches in Europe. Everyone here does gets a fair chance.
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That actually sounds like a really crap unfare system going on down there.
Personaly I wouldn't stand for that on any pitch. In my mind whether you been there 100 years or 1 year, if there is a draw, then everyone should have equal chance in it. I worked the same pitch in Fremantle Australia for over 7 years and never once felt that I should have priority over a show that just turned up last week. It's bad enough we have governments and police putting restrictions on us and giving us less places and chances to work.
We don't need other performers doing it too !!!Leave a comment:
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Woooo, big fella. Is the Island out of Beer!!!!!! He'll get it or he won't. The guy will figure it out. I would'nt slam you on a post, Just letting the man? know " It is what it is"! I'll be sure to give ya a hug when I see ya.Leave a comment:
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Well hey Ringon Haven't heard from you in a while. Where you been?
Hey Aztommyb,You still sleeping in Will's front yard? Sounds like it!
It appears this post is about slamming me... and Mallory Square...
We have rules that we set up here probably before you where even born,Will made most of those and we've lived by them for all these years.Now you want us to change them to suit you,good luck.
To get in the regular bucket you have to put in 5 years ,the grandfather status is 10 years. It took me 11 years to get in the regular bucket and 16 to get in the grandfather bucket. You came here with little to no show maybe 3 months ago, and we all tried to help you out including me when you first started out,remember?
It's my believe none of us out here o you anything, much less respect. In my book you gotta earn it ,but I'll be easy on ya.
You have a beautiful girl in your show,a loud barking dog, a really good drummer,more fire than 3 people need ,and I'm talking fire every where.And I out drew you on a change of crowd one time. OMG,What a whiner!
I'll tell you about them 3 jugglers they came her as very young children,they studied juggling in school .They had no show when they started and where just like you making 10 15 20 dollars a night, Now they do a lot better as they've been doing it for a few years now. To bad they seem to wanta copy Mark, but they'll grow.Oh and I'm the one who advanced there status to the regular bucket.
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Good for you. I hope you keep your eye on the prize. The dock will be open next Mo. or the Next. If you learn from this, you will be able to pull a crowd any where you go. Keep trying anything new and keep your ideas to your self, they won't be yours long. Start bulding a small group, nothing builds a crowd like a crowd. Hang out and pull a a quick show @ the end of the night. I have'nt found much more love any where else I've performed, same sort of shit, different town, I think it's just the nature of the beast, IE: easy as hell to make money with out a need for kindness, self awareness/improvement. Just some advice from a Mallory guy. If you can learn to keep a crowd in KW you will be well on your way to success anywhere. Luck em....Leave a comment:
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Will Soto and Mallory Square
I've been on Mallory now for about 3 months. Trying to put on shows nearly every day, and here's my take...
Will Soto is an honorable, helpful and genuine man who does his best to help new performers get going. He's been nothing but helpful and accommodating, even to the point of giving up his pitch after one or two shows (many times) so that I could get a show in.
The Mallory Square politics are so messed up that nearly any act that hasn't been there for three years or more is most likely not going to get a pitch during season.
I've shown up to the "lottery" nearly every single day for the last three weeks. I got a spot waaaaaaay over there twice.
The "grand fathers" as they call them take up all good spots first, and with the exception of a few really good guys (Will Soto, Dr. Juice, Rondini, Stickman Tim), they pretty much don't give a shit about new performers or treating other performers with any kind of respect. One of these old timers actually told me after pulling my crowd during my first show (his third that night), "It's elbows and assholes here....and...you aren't big enough to do anything about it".
In addition, there's a group of 4 acts that all pretty much copy Mark. They're all in the "regulars" bucket which chooses first. Three of these acts are in High School! Supposedly it takes 7.5 years to make the regular bucket, yet 17 year old performers are in there....hmmm. Their habit is to snatch up 5 of the 9 circle show spots currently available, and then either ping pong the crowd between with little regard to other acts, or to sit on the pitches without using them, then team up and do shows together and use only the ones near a big crowd, effectively keeping new comers waiting for a spot with no chance for a show while they sit on empty pitches. In addition, if someone gives up their spot to you, one of these 4 acts will come take your spot if it's better than theirs (siting seniority and doing it all legal-like through the pier manager), leaving you with a less viable pitch.
In all...if you are a new act (to Key West) expect a lot of competition and difficulty getting a spot, and if you do get one from some nice old timer giving up his pitch, your crowd will have already seen 3-5 shows and the hats are much lighter than earlier shows.
If you're coming to Key West...strap on an extra elbow and pucker the starfish...Last edited by aztommyb; Jan-20-2010, 01:50 PM.Leave a comment:
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despite the press...
Key West is one of the coolest and best places to visit in the country. No place like it!!! Love every second including the long-ass drive out there!! BEAUTIFUL.
Mallory Square should be on every street performers "Bucket List". It's not for ALL. Many won't make money. But you atleast leave there saying you've done it. Because if you can gather a crowd in Key West, you CAN gather a crowd ANYWHERE!!! I won't say my favorite quote of all time and it came from Jeep!!!!(I'll leave that for him)
Atleast in the U.S. anyways.
Because lets face it, anyone can get a crowd in a place where there are alot of children. It's the huge crowds of drunk adults that can really test your skills.
Hope things get better down there. And I'm trying to plan a trip down in January with Nick and Sharon. Her jewelry does better down there than anywhere!!
Happy Holidays and PHAT hats for all,
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no problem
not a problem.
I have sent acts to Key West and have never sugar-coated anything. I know once I send them, they probably won't come back to Clearwater. The money is better down there. Case in point Storm Surge. One of my best ideas, i gave away, he did a WONDEFUL job here. We miss his act here. But I knew, if he can put up with the "crap" "you'll never come back" and he hasn't. Except for a visit and I understand.
Also, if an act wants to come here and contact me first, I will let you know EXACTLY "how it is".Leave a comment:
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